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[humanist]

Is there a nation on earth that does not possess racists, bigots and politiicans?

[DT.]

ahh the men of wisdow this is a statement is based on philosophical, psychological, and spiritaul fact, whats so racist about an observation,if it was not based on fact then the post will not here:)

course it's racist. wot's the empirical evidence to back it up? i can think of loads of places around the globe where people are more racist than free cyprus. the northern latrine is another matter of course - u could make a good case for there.

all people are hard-wired to fear difference, for sound genetic reasons. this where racism stems. we're all racist free cyprus - including u.

i, am against racism all over the world including cyprus

but accusing people of being racist just 'cos they come from cyprus is... err.... kinda racist.

now your talking rubbish, i am not accusing people of cyprus of being racist, i am stating a fact there is a differance

Zenon you idiot! He's not accusing all of Cyprus of being racsist he is STATiNG all of Cyprus is rascist.

That's not being racist that's just er.......oh for f**ks sake he's racist.

[Bananiot]

There is racism in Cyprus and if you care about Cyprus you need to face the fact and try to correct the problem. Hiding a problem only makes it worse.

In 2007 a survey was carried outby the University of Nicosia and the findings published in newspapers. Here are some of the findings:

Sixty-three per cent of those asked reported suffering from discrimination and prejudice on a daily basis.

Forty-seven per cent also reported having encountered institutional discrimination from the immigration and migration departments, welfare and health services as well as the police.

The findings of the survey, titled "Policy and Practice: Issues of Ethnicity and Race in Contemporary Cyprus", were released by the Research Unit in Behaviour and Social Issues and the University of Nicosia.

Three hundred personal interviews were conducted focusing on three main groups: in Nicosia at immigrant support group KISA – with people from different communities that used the counselling centre for information regarding immigration, asylum issues and employment; one in Larnaca with Cypriot repatriates and one in Paphos with Pontians.

The sample included people from 29 countries, 70 per cent being Asians, something reflected in the 2001 and 2004 census.

Seventy-five per cent had “minor” or “nil” knowledge of the Greek language, with 25 per cent having “fair” knowledge.

Sixty-six per cent had lived in Cyprus for less than two years, something that demonstrates the characteristic of the migrant or foreign worker as it is the main trend in Cyprus (as defined by law and practices on migration and employment).

As regards income and work, 90 per cent of respondents said that their income was insufficient for their needs, 27 per cent said they could send money back home and 51 per cent accepted money from friends and family back home, or from Cyprus or elsewhere within the EU.

When it came to questions about housing, 87 per cent stated that it was either difficult or impossible to find accommodation. Fifty-four per cent said the main reason is the high cost of housing, 22 per cent cited lack of family and friends who could help them find accommodation and 19 per cent gave race-related reasons such as:“They think we are dirty” or “they wouldn’t show me the flat because of the colour of my skin”.
Seventy-seven per cent reported living in a shared house or apartment with three to six people sharing one bedroom, with 83 per cent not satisfied with their accommodation.

Only 17 per cent of participants reported membership of a community organisation or group – including religious activities and social events. This indicates a trend towards isolation and low community activity and participation.

In conclusion, the survey found that,“everyday societal discrimination against migrants was positively correlated with the level of difficulty in finding employment and negatively correlated with membership of community, religious or social organisations and certain types of membership activities, respectively. The above results support the conclusion that as migrants become economically and socially isolated in the host society with limited participation in the community and little public voice, they are likely to receive little public support and sympathy and encounter more discrimination.

[ZoC]

ahh the men of wisdow this is a statement is based on philosophical, psychological, and spiritaul fact, whats so racist about an observation,if it was not based on fact then the post will not here:)

course it's racist. wot's the empirical evidence to back it up? i can think of loads of places around the globe where people are more racist than free cyprus. the northern latrine is another matter of course - u could make a good case for there.

all people are hard-wired to fear difference, for sound genetic reasons. this where racism stems. we're all racist free cyprus - including u.

i, am against racism all over the world including cyprus

but accusing people of being racist just 'cos they come from cyprus is... err.... kinda racist.

now your talking rubbish, i am not accusing people of cyprus of being racist, i am stating a fact there is a differance

u r accusing, f_c. because people are innocent until proven guilty - and u've provided no verifiable evidence to back up ur 'statement of fact'. there is a difference. i on the other hand can provide verifiable evidence that u are racist, because u single out one group of people (those from cyprus) as being more racist than other groups - the title of the thread gives it away.

in israel u'd be called a self-hating jew. and they're the worst anti-semites in the world. (it's rumoured quite strongly that hitler had jewish ancestry, on his father's side)

[ZoC]

There is racism in Cyprus

there's racism everywhere.....

[ZoC]

ahh the men of wisdow this is a statement is based on philosophical, psychological, and spiritaul fact, whats so racist about an observation,if it was not based on fact then the post will not here:)

course it's racist. wot's the empirical evidence to back it up? i can think of loads of places around the globe where people are more racist than free cyprus. the northern latrine is another matter of course - u could make a good case for there.

all people are hard-wired to fear difference, for sound genetic reasons. this where racism stems. we're all racist free cyprus - including u.

i, am against racism all over the world including cyprus

but accusing people of being racist just 'cos they come from cyprus is... err.... kinda racist.

now your talking rubbish, i am not accusing people of cyprus of being racist, i am stating a fact there is a differance

Zenon you idiot! He's not accusing all of Cyprus of being racsist he is STATiNG all of Cyprus is rascist.

That's not being racist that's just er.......oh for f**ks sake he's racist.

free-cyprus, the most racist person on earth. that's not an accusation, by the way. that's a fact!!!

[Daniella]

this thread sucks

[ZoC]

this thread sucks

si ma, i find free_cyprus's idiocy fascinating...

[humanist]

Bananiot ... I agree with you. There is racism in Cyprus undoubtedly. And yes you do need to acknowledge it in order to have change. However, the thread assumes the position that Cyprus is the only place on earth where it exists. Racism exists everywhere and yes it exists in Cyprus too. Sometimes through lack of people's education and our historical experience shape our belief system. Indeed a vast majority of Cypriots Greek and Turkish speaking Cypriots hold racist beliefs about each other. The wall need to come down from both sides of the divide.

Greek speaking Cypriots are no more racists than some Australians for example and I am speaking from experience.

[supporttheunderdog]

Racism to me is but one manifestation of the way that pepole from one particular group from either a defined area and/or skin colour and/or language or some other similar defineable georgrahpical or cultural charatersistic; may consider themsleves in someway superior to people from another group with a different charcteristic, leading to the application of significantly different treatement by people from each group to members of other groups, to the detriment of members of other groups. Such distinctions even exist within countries, in the form of inter village rivallries,or inter regional rivalries, eg the supposed superiority of those from Capital over the "provincials". While there may be obvious differences, such as skin colour, language, etc. these are superficial and to distinguish in that way between such people on the grounds of such differences is irrational.

Yes there is Racism in Cyprus, with (for eaxmple) a number of Greek Speaking indivduals regulalary denigrating as a group or rather simply as members of the group Cypriots who speak Turkush, simply on the basis that they speak Turkish. It also happens the other way round. There are no doubt some expat Brits who thaink that they for some reason (eg simply being British) are somehow inately superior to Cypriots, when in reality thiose individuals are not, and vice versa. I have met racism in Cyprus:

However one thing is clear - there is far worse racism in other parts of the world - I have even been subject to racist remarks including abuse in England based upon some misconceptions about my ethnicity, when I was as probably as English as the abuser.

From the begining of Human kind we are all probbaly descended from the same woman, Mitochondrial eve, so we areprobably all related, and we are,, at the end of the day all individuals who should be judged according to our individual behaviours towards others not on how we look, or talk, or dress, or what we may chose to eat or not, etc.