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Erdogan furious at TCs

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Postby ZoC » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:36 pm

Viewpoint wrote:How old are you? 10? no 12??


twit.
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Postby DT. » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:You forget that the Turks will not talk to you GCs directly they do not recognize you.


On the contrary, Erdogan had invited the President of Cyprus on many occasions for a 5 party conference. The only reason this doesn't happen is because the pseudo state is not recognised by the other 3 parties.

You've mixed up your recognitions.


They will not meet you without the TC representation because thats the only way they will sit around a table with you.


Tell that to Gul when he addressed Christofias as the President of Cyprus in the last EU summit.


Wheres your evidence?


My apologies wasnt an eu summit but a UN summit. Here you will find the references of the Turkish and tc press that reported it.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/d ... ment&print
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Postby humanist » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:07 am

VP I don't really give a hoot whether the Turks speak to us directly or not. Sooner or later your regime will topple and this is the beginning. I have faith that the majority of TC community is fed up of living like the poor cousin in a Country no bigger than the eye of a needle lol. They see the riches next door and know the only way they can have it is by unification. The rest is up to your leadership and your master to come up with a solution that is acceptable to the GC population. Remember the vast majority of TC's voted yes. I am confident to suggest the YES vote would have been as high under a different model also. Try it and see. So I think you need to work harder.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:27 am

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You forget that the Turks will not talk to you GCs directly they do not recognize you.


On the contrary, Erdogan had invited the President of Cyprus on many occasions for a 5 party conference. The only reason this doesn't happen is because the pseudo state is not recognised by the other 3 parties.

You've mixed up your recognitions.


They will not meet you without the TC representation because thats the only way they will sit around a table with you.


Tell that to Gul when he addressed Christofias as the President of Cyprus in the last EU summit.


Wheres your evidence?


My apologies wasnt an eu summit but a UN summit. Here you will find the references of the Turkish and tc press that reported it.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/d ... ment&print


Dont give us this rubbish we need an independent reliable source?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:29 am

humanist wrote:VP I don't really give a hoot whether the Turks speak to us directly or not. Sooner or later your regime will topple and this is the beginning. I have faith that the majority of TC community is fed up of living like the poor cousin in a Country no bigger than the eye of a needle lol. They see the riches next door and know the only way they can have it is by unification. The rest is up to your leadership and your master to come up with a solution that is acceptable to the GC population. Remember the vast majority of TC's voted yes. I am confident to suggest the YES vote would have been as high under a different model also. Try it and see. So I think you need to work harder.


How long do you think it will be before all this blows over and everything remains as is? then you will feel as silly as you look.
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:29 am

It's a conspiracy organised in concert with the Republic. Blame it all on the Republic..... again! .... :lol:


From Zaman...

..."A former foreign minister of (tnucland) has alleged that anti-Turkey slogans appearing during a controversial rally on Jan. 28 in Turkish Cyprus were orchestrated in cooperation with Greek Cypriots after German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s visit to the island earlier last month.

Freedom and Reform Party leader Turgay Avcı told Today’s Zaman in an interview that the anti-Turkey slogans during the rally last month are not the product of a single outburst of anger but rather part of a long-term, organized plan. “Ankara, take your hands off us; this land is ours, we will run it” and “Ankara, we don’t want your money or [austerity] package” were some of the messages the protesters wrote on placards during the Jan. 28 demonstration....."
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:08 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:VP I don't really give a hoot whether the Turks speak to us directly or not. Sooner or later your regime will topple and this is the beginning. I have faith that the majority of TC community is fed up of living like the poor cousin in a Country no bigger than the eye of a needle lol. They see the riches next door and know the only way they can have it is by unification. The rest is up to your leadership and your master to come up with a solution that is acceptable to the GC population. Remember the vast majority of TC's voted yes. I am confident to suggest the YES vote would have been as high under a different model also. Try it and see. So I think you need to work harder.


How long do you think it will be before all this blows over and everything remains as is? then you will feel as silly as you look.


Ain't blowing over quite as quickly as you'd like us to believe VP as hear that the next demo by CYs to resist Turkey's Annexation is on the 2nd March.

........... Have you got a Gas-Mask VP?
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:21 am

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You forget that the Turks will not talk to you GCs directly they do not recognize you.


On the contrary, Erdogan had invited the President of Cyprus on many occasions for a 5 party conference. The only reason this doesn't happen is because the pseudo state is not recognised by the other 3 parties.

You've mixed up your recognitions.


They will not meet you without the TC representation because thats the only way they will sit around a table with you.


Tell that to Gul when he addressed Christofias as the President of Cyprus in the last EU summit.


Wheres your evidence?


My apologies wasnt an eu summit but a UN summit. Here you will find the references of the Turkish and tc press that reported it.

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/d ... ment&print


Dont give us this rubbish we need an independent reliable source?


Open the link and you will find multiple Turkish and tc sources being quoted. Don't grasp at straws, it's ugly. :roll:
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Postby Hermes » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:09 pm

The message of the protests to Erdogan:

In a telling statement, Union of Turkish Cypriot Teachers (KTOS) Secretary General Sener Elcil has opined: “Mr. Erdogan’s statements (arising from German chancellor Angela Merkel’s recent visit to Cyprus) reveal the real goals of Turkey in Cyprus ... (Erdogan) behaves as if it were not (his AKP party) and the Turkish state which annihilate the Turkish Cypriot community, a partner on an equal footing in the Republic of Cyprus. As if it were not Turkey ... transferring population and neutralising (Turkish Cypriots’) political will, imposing the so-called economic packages and forcing us to immigrate. As if it were not they who built mosques in every corner, assimilating the Turkish Cypriots.

“Striving to appear as the side which wants a solution and asking Mrs. Merkel to apologise because she has referred to these realities, constitutes a political distortion ... We remind Mr. Erdogan that (guarantor power) Turkey is in Cyprus to protect the territorial integrity and the constitutional order of the Republic of Cyprus. Mr. Erdogan should know that the transfer of population, the creation of dividing structures, the distribution of Greek Cypriot properties to Turkish nationals and all that Turkey has done in Cyprus contravene International Law and are not included in its duties as a guarantor.

“How easily you have forgotten that it is you who ‘slept’ on the 65 per cent of the Yes vote by the Turkish Cypriots at the (Annan plan) referendum and, without making a step forward towards a solution, you revealed your true goals by stating that ‘we did not give away a single stone’. “(You forget) the real owner of this land are all the Cypriots. With what right are you bargaining with our land? Cyprus is not the property of your fathers.”


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus-probl ... s/20110211
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:13 pm

Hermes wrote:The message of the protests to Erdogan:

In a telling statement, Union of Turkish Cypriot Teachers (KTOS) Secretary General Sener Elcil has opined: “Mr. Erdogan’s statements (arising from German chancellor Angela Merkel’s recent visit to Cyprus) reveal the real goals of Turkey in Cyprus ... (Erdogan) behaves as if it were not (his AKP party) and the Turkish state which annihilate the Turkish Cypriot community, a partner on an equal footing in the Republic of Cyprus. As if it were not Turkey ... transferring population and neutralising (Turkish Cypriots’) political will, imposing the so-called economic packages and forcing us to immigrate. As if it were not they who built mosques in every corner, assimilating the Turkish Cypriots.

“Striving to appear as the side which wants a solution and asking Mrs. Merkel to apologise because she has referred to these realities, constitutes a political distortion ... We remind Mr. Erdogan that (guarantor power) Turkey is in Cyprus to protect the territorial integrity and the constitutional order of the Republic of Cyprus. Mr. Erdogan should know that the transfer of population, the creation of dividing structures, the distribution of Greek Cypriot properties to Turkish nationals and all that Turkey has done in Cyprus contravene International Law and are not included in its duties as a guarantor.

“How easily you have forgotten that it is you who ‘slept’ on the 65 per cent of the Yes vote by the Turkish Cypriots at the (Annan plan) referendum and, without making a step forward towards a solution, you revealed your true goals by stating that ‘we did not give away a single stone’. “(You forget) the real owner of this land are all the Cypriots. With what right are you bargaining with our land? Cyprus is not the property of your fathers.”


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus-probl ... s/20110211


Brave man and well said. :shock:
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