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Postby Hermes » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:28 pm

Erdogan's message to the protestors:

Erdogan appoints key aid slasher as ‘ambassador’

TENSIONS in the north rose yet further yesterday as Ankara appointed as ‘ambassador’ a man known among Turkish Cypriots as a key architect of an economic austerity package which they say will squeeze them off the island.

Newly appointed ‘ambassador’ to north Nicosia Halil Ibrahim Akca has worked as a deputy undersecretary in Ankara’s state planning organisation since 2002 and is a key figure in the branch of that office allocating aid – and more recently cutting aid - to north Cyprus. Significantly, he has no diplomatic or ambassadorial experience.
His appointment sparked fury among Turkish Cypriot politicians yesterday, with some calling his appointment “a deliberate act of provocation by Ankara”.

“It is as if Turkey is deliberately trying to raise the tensions,” head of the left-wing Communal Democracy Party (TDP) Mehmet Cakici said yesterday.

“Just when things were beginning to calm down, a step has been taken that will further inflame the people,” Cakici observed, adding a call for Turkish Cypriot leader Dervish Eroglu to reject Ankara’s appointment on the ground that Akca’s presence as ‘ambassador’ would not be in the interests of the Turkish Cypriots.

Cakici said that from what he had seen, Akca’s approach was more like that of “a governor” than an ambassador.

Akca replaces Kaya Turkmen, a figure generally liked by Turkish Cypriots, in particular for comments he made criticising uncontrolled immigration from Turkey. Last year, Kaya was forced to backtrack on a call he made for tighter controls on Turkish immigration, having suggested that rather than allow Turkish nationals to enter the north using only ID card, they should be forced to use passports.

“He was a democratic person who we had good relations with. We are sad he is having to pay the price for this,” Cakici said.

Other politicians joined the attack on Akca’s appointment, including the general secretary of the main opposition Republican Turkish Party (CTP) Kutlay Erk who called on the Turkish Cypriot leadership to “stand tall against Ankara”.

Speaking on the north’s SIM TV, Erk accused Ankara of “neglecting procedure” and unilaterally appointing its ‘ambassador’ without consulting with the Turkish Cypriot authorities.

“Normally, when a country wishes to appoint an ambassador, the appointee’s credentials are sent to the host country for approval. I am curious as to what Eroglu will do if he receives such a letter. I call on him to reject it”.

Tensions were already set to continue yesterday after unions declared they would stage a second “communal survival” rally on March 2 in opposition to an Ankara-inspired economic austerity package imposed from the beginning of the year. An earlier rally on January 28 was attended by over 10,000 Turkish Cypriots opposed to the package and what many feel is Ankara’s increasing involvement in their affairs.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, himself angered by what he saw as Turkish Cypriot “ingratitude” for the aid the country provides for the breakaway state, in turned incensed Turkish Cypriots by describing the community as “parasites”. Further comments by him calling on the Turkish Cypriot authorities to arrest those at the January 28 rally who carried slogans “insulting Turkey” have also been met with anger and indignation.
Speaking after the decision to hold a second rally, head of the TURK-SEN trades union and spokesman for the Union Platform coordinating the rallies and strikes taking place in the north Arslan Bicakli said, “Our aim is to strengthen the message sent out by the first rally”. Like the first rally, the second will be accompanied by a general strike.


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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Hermes wrote:The message of the protests to Erdogan:

In a telling statement, Union of Turkish Cypriot Teachers (KTOS) Secretary General Sener Elcil has opined: “Mr. Erdogan’s statements (arising from German chancellor Angela Merkel’s recent visit to Cyprus) reveal the real goals of Turkey in Cyprus ... (Erdogan) behaves as if it were not (his AKP party) and the Turkish state which annihilate the Turkish Cypriot community, a partner on an equal footing in the Republic of Cyprus. As if it were not Turkey ... transferring population and neutralising (Turkish Cypriots’) political will, imposing the so-called economic packages and forcing us to immigrate. As if it were not they who built mosques in every corner, assimilating the Turkish Cypriots.

“Striving to appear as the side which wants a solution and asking Mrs. Merkel to apologise because she has referred to these realities, constitutes a political distortion ... We remind Mr. Erdogan that (guarantor power) Turkey is in Cyprus to protect the territorial integrity and the constitutional order of the Republic of Cyprus. Mr. Erdogan should know that the transfer of population, the creation of dividing structures, the distribution of Greek Cypriot properties to Turkish nationals and all that Turkey has done in Cyprus contravene International Law and are not included in its duties as a guarantor.

“How easily you have forgotten that it is you who ‘slept’ on the 65 per cent of the Yes vote by the Turkish Cypriots at the (Annan plan) referendum and, without making a step forward towards a solution, you revealed your true goals by stating that ‘we did not give away a single stone’. “(You forget) the real owner of this land are all the Cypriots. With what right are you bargaining with our land? Cyprus is not the property of your fathers.”


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus-probl ... s/20110211


Brave man and well said.

Very, very brave, wise and honest statement.

VP .... this def isn't gonna blow over, both sides are upping the ante... Turkey with its continued blustery condemnations and the appointment of an austerity Governor, and the CYs in the Occupied Areas fighting for their survival.

The gloves are off, this has gone way, way beyond a simple industrial action.
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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:56 pm

Bill, stop it, you are spoiling it. VP still thinks the TCs are in charge and still thinks that have their own 'state' :)

And they still rather have Turkey than the RoC. well Turkey can keep them, the ungrateful parasites they are.

I think he/she and a few others are gonna come down with a very large bump any minute now.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:25 pm

Newly appointed ‘ambassador’ to north Nicosia Halil Ibrahim Akca has worked as a deputy undersecretary in Ankara’s state planning organisation since 2002 and is a key figure in the branch of that office allocating aid – and more recently cutting aid - to north Cyprus. Significantly, he has no diplomatic or ambassadorial experience.

Speaking on the north’s SIM TV, Erk accused Ankara of “neglecting procedure” and unilaterally appointing its ‘ambassador’ without consulting with the Turkish Cypriot authorities.

“Normally, when a country wishes to appoint an ambassador, the appointee’s credentials are sent to the host country for approval. I am curious as to what Eroglu will do if he receives such a letter. I call on him to reject it”.


I hate to state the obvious, but I feel as if I should do so, so that my TC community in the north would understand it once and for all.

THE "TRNC" IS NOT A COUNTRY, is the reason as to why the normal Ambassador-Country formalities are not exercised in the north, despite all the previous make believe exchanges of the so called Ambassadors to the "trnc" by Turkey and from the "trnc" to Turkey. You are now all seeing the realities of the real situation in the north and the TCs are finally waking up from a very deep sleep they have been in for a very long time, by them living in Fantasy Land for so long, lead there by their morally corrupted leaders.

It is time for the TCs to see Turkey to what she is and what she is trying to achieve in the north. The TCs need to join forces with the ROC in large numbers to repel Turkey from the north politically through the UN and the EU in the form of sanctions so that all Cypriots can form their own government in a Democratic way that would safeguard every one's political rights and individuals security. This is the ONLY option now left for the TCs for them to remain as Cypriots and for them to live on the island as equal citizens with other Cypriots and for them to live in a prosperous and safe country as a EU member and EU citizens. The alternative will only get worse for them than what it is today. They will be washed away in the "Turkish wave" that is flooding their way of life, culture, heritage, names, Cypriot dialect and more with the Turkish settlers and the Turkish ideology. I know the Fascists within the TC community are welcoming these changes, is because they were never Cypriots to begin with, nor will they ever be. They are the true traitors of their parents, their parents parents and their parents parents heritage as Cypriots in their country of Cyprus.
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Postby Jerry » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:36 pm

Even Denktash and son are complaining that they have had too much Turkey, also from Cyprus Mail: -


Gone are the days when Denktash - while in power - would dismiss opposition criticism of unchecked settler influx, compounded by Turkish Cypriots departing, in his typically offhand manner: “one Turk goes, another comes”. Now both he and his son Serdar reiterate ‘enough is enough’ with Ankara’s Cyprus policies.
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Postby Jerry » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:42 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Newly appointed ‘ambassador’ to north Nicosia Halil Ibrahim Akca has worked as a deputy undersecretary in Ankara’s state planning organisation since 2002 and is a key figure in the branch of that office allocating aid – and more recently cutting aid - to north Cyprus. Significantly, he has no diplomatic or ambassadorial experience.

Speaking on the north’s SIM TV, Erk accused Ankara of “neglecting procedure” and unilaterally appointing its ‘ambassador’ without consulting with the Turkish Cypriot authorities.

“Normally, when a country wishes to appoint an ambassador, the appointee’s credentials are sent to the host country for approval. I am curious as to what Eroglu will do if he receives such a letter. I call on him to reject it”.


I hate to state the obvious, but I feel as if I should do so, so that my TC community in the north would understand it once and for all.

THE "TRNC" IS NOT A COUNTRY, is the reason as to why the normal Ambassador-Country formalities are not exercised in the north, despite all the previous make believe exchanges of the so called Ambassadors to the "trnc" by Turkey and from the "trnc" to Turkey. You are now all seeing the realities of the real situation in the north and the TCs are finally waking up from a very deep sleep they have been in for a very long time, by them living in Fantasy Land for so long, lead there by their morally corrupted leaders.

It is time for the TCs to see Turkey to what she is and what she is trying to achieve in the north. The TCs need to join forces with the ROC in large numbers to repel Turkey from the north politically through the UN and the EU in the form of sanctions so that all Cypriots can form their own government in a Democratic way that would safeguard every one's political rights and individuals security. This is the ONLY option now left for the TCs for them to remain as Cypriots and for them to live on the island as equal citizens with other Cypriots and for them to live in a prosperous and safe country as a EU member and EU citizens. The alternative will only get worse for them than what it is today. They will be washed away in the "Turkish wave" that is flooding their way of life, culture, heritage, names, Cypriot dialect and more with the Turkish settlers and the Turkish ideology. I know the Fascists within the TC community are welcoming these changes, is because they were never Cypriots to begin with, nor will they ever be. They are the true traitors of their parents, their parents parents and their parents parents heritage as Cypriots in their country of Cyprus.


But how can Cypriots drive a wedge between TCs and Turkey?

It would seem that someone is already trying to restrict movements to the ROC from the north: -

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My friend has just been to the Metahan border to get new insurance to drive in the South and been told that no T.R.N.C. cars will be isued insuranse, they took his road tax paper work which was valid untill May 2011 crossed that out and wrote on it expires tonight. They told him no one can now drive a trnc registered car on the South side.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:09 pm

Jerry wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Newly appointed ‘ambassador’ to north Nicosia Halil Ibrahim Akca has worked as a deputy undersecretary in Ankara’s state planning organisation since 2002 and is a key figure in the branch of that office allocating aid – and more recently cutting aid - to north Cyprus. Significantly, he has no diplomatic or ambassadorial experience.

Speaking on the north’s SIM TV, Erk accused Ankara of “neglecting procedure” and unilaterally appointing its ‘ambassador’ without consulting with the Turkish Cypriot authorities.

“Normally, when a country wishes to appoint an ambassador, the appointee’s credentials are sent to the host country for approval. I am curious as to what Eroglu will do if he receives such a letter. I call on him to reject it”.


I hate to state the obvious, but I feel as if I should do so, so that my TC community in the north would understand it once and for all.

THE "TRNC" IS NOT A COUNTRY, is the reason as to why the normal Ambassador-Country formalities are not exercised in the north, despite all the previous make believe exchanges of the so called Ambassadors to the "trnc" by Turkey and from the "trnc" to Turkey. You are now all seeing the realities of the real situation in the north and the TCs are finally waking up from a very deep sleep they have been in for a very long time, by them living in Fantasy Land for so long, lead there by their morally corrupted leaders.

It is time for the TCs to see Turkey to what she is and what she is trying to achieve in the north. The TCs need to join forces with the ROC in large numbers to repel Turkey from the north politically through the UN and the EU in the form of sanctions so that all Cypriots can form their own government in a Democratic way that would safeguard every one's political rights and individuals security. This is the ONLY option now left for the TCs for them to remain as Cypriots and for them to live on the island as equal citizens with other Cypriots and for them to live in a prosperous and safe country as a EU member and EU citizens. The alternative will only get worse for them than what it is today. They will be washed away in the "Turkish wave" that is flooding their way of life, culture, heritage, names, Cypriot dialect and more with the Turkish settlers and the Turkish ideology. I know the Fascists within the TC community are welcoming these changes, is because they were never Cypriots to begin with, nor will they ever be. They are the true traitors of their parents, their parents parents and their parents parents heritage as Cypriots in their country of Cyprus.


But how can Cypriots drive a wedge between TCs and Turkey?

It would seem that someone is already trying to restrict movements to the ROC from the north: -

Posted from CY44
My friend has just been to the Metahan border to get new insurance to drive in the South and been told that no T.R.N.C. cars will be isued insuranse, they took his road tax paper work which was valid untill May 2011 crossed that out and wrote on it expires tonight. They told him no one can now drive a trnc registered car on the South side.


I think the above restriction only applies to private motor vehicles. Business registered cars travel freely - unless ofcourse the new 'Governor General' from Turkey has changed things. :?
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Postby quattro » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:59 pm

nothing is going on false alarm just phone a friend at the crossings :) :) :) but in 44 they go stampede :)
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Postby Hermes » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:30 pm

Kikapu wrote: You are now all seeing the realities of the real situation in the north and the TCs are finally waking up from a very deep sleep they have been in for a very long time, by them living in Fantasy Land for so long, lead there by their morally corrupted leaders.


The genie is out of the bottle. Turkish Cypriot protesters face a dilemma. Do they back down and allow Turkey to drive them from Cyprus and thus consolidate its stranglehold on the north? Or do they join forces with the ROC in the struggle to rid Turkey from Cyprus?

One thing is clear, Turkey has shown its hand in recent weeks and its entire propaganda strategy has blown up in its face.
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Postby Hermes » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:17 pm

Jerry wrote:But how can Cypriots drive a wedge between TCs and Turkey?


The T/Cs need to look across the sea to Egypt for inspiration.
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