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[Filitsa]

And if you think that steak tartar or spinach filled ravioli is a sign of a superior culture or cuisine thats above all else then you are incorrect...

Ill take a nicely cooked Virginia Honey Baked Ham or a freshly cooked piece of Fried Chicken in the middle of a plate of blackeyed peas anyday.....Dont even get me started on a AAAUSDA New York Strip steak at Peter Luger's, nowhere else can anyone in the world walk into a place get a steak like that dressed in Levis' and flip flops and pay $150 a head...you know what im talking about

Ya, I know what you're talking about - the one tradition I finally managed to recognize as uniquely American:

The Sibling Society
by Roberty Bly

Poet and storyteller Robert Bly takes the baby boomers to task in this highly charged exposure of midlifers' values. Having become jaded by the abuses of authority, the boomers of North America have torn down the traditional hierarchy within their families and within their communities. What's left is a "cultural flatness," says Bly, where adults cling to self-absorbed adolescent values, television talk shows have more clout than elders, children are spiritually abandoned to fend for themselves, and in the place of community we have built shopping malls. As always, Bly relies on mythology, legends, and poetry to illustrate the morals of his stories. Ultimately this is a hopeful piece of work, nudging midlifers to take on the responsibilities (and therefore the rewards) of adulthood.

http://www.amazon.com/Sibling-Society-R ... 0679781285

[Paphitis]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

[Talisker]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

There must be some interesting sociological studies investigating why the US, Canada, NZ and Australia have evolved from their migrant beginnings to their current very different political and social status. I'd argue the stock might be different in the case of Australia which was initially a penal colony, the Scots (and French but for different reasons) emigrated in vast numbers to Canada because of the Highland clearances, and the Irish to the US because of English oppression and the potato famine. The Scots seem also to have dominated emigration to NZ, not sure the reasons behind that but would be interested to find out.

[Paphitis]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

There must be some interesting sociological studies investigating why the US, Canada, NZ and Australia have evolved from their migrant beginnings to their current very different political and social status. I'd argue the stock might be different in the case of Australia which was initially a penal colony, the Scots (and French but for different reasons) emigrated in vast numbers to Canada because of the Highland clearances, and the Irish to the US because of English oppression and the potato famine. The Scots seem also to have dominated emigration to NZ, not sure the reasons behind that but would be interested to find out.

Australia's ethnic makeup is predominately Anglo-Celtic. The English are the most predominant followed by the Irish and then the Scots. But all these nations can trace their origins to the British Isles. After that there are European influences, German, Italian, Greek, African, Hispanic and French (Canada) etc.

So all these nations have similar origins, except Australia which was a Penal colony which may explain the Australian people to a large degree, which is so different to British society in many respects. Australians don't seem to adhere to a class system like the Brits do, and have learned to adapt to a harsh continent as have the Americans making them quite resourceful and determined. Religion is another interesting factor. Americans seem to be far more religious than the Brits and Australians and there are many more examples.

I don't really know. These nations may be ethnically similar, but they are all very different and each has their very own culture and traditions. Some people say that these young nations are culturally immature, but this is not correct in my opinion.

Some have a very Socialist outlook, which means they will look after the welfare of the entire population (health and education) whilst one in particular is anything but, which creates some social issues and a large gap between rich and poor.

Ethnically similar, yet very different! It is quite amazing actually!

[Filitsa]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

Yes, less social cohesion is the price we pay for capitalism. The fallout is what Cowboy referred to as the American tradition of promoting the "individual."

[Filitsa]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

There must be some interesting sociological studies investigating why the US, Canada, NZ and Australia have evolved from their migrant beginnings to their current very different political and social status. I'd argue the stock might be different in the case of Australia which was initially a penal colony, the Scots (and French but for different reasons) emigrated in vast numbers to Canada because of the Highland clearances, and the Irish to the US because of English oppression and the potato famine. The Scots seem also to have dominated emigration to NZ, not sure the reasons behind that but would be interested to find out.

Australia's ethnic makeup is predominately Anglo-Celtic. The English are the most predominant followed by the Irish and then the Scots. But all these nations can trace their origins to the British Isles. After that there are European influences, German, Italian, Greek, African, Hispanic and French (Canada) etc.

So all these nations have similar origins, except Australia which was a Penal colony which may explain the Australian people to a large degree, which is so different to British society in many respects. Australians don't seem to adhere to a class system like the Brits do, and have learned to adapt to a harsh continent as have the Americans making them quite resourceful and determined. Religion is another interesting factor. Americans seem to be far more religious than the Brits and Australians and there are many more examples.

I don't really know. These nations may be ethnically similar, but they are all very different and each has their very own culture and traditions. Some people say that these young nations are culturally immature, but this is not correct in my opinion.

Some have a very Socialist outlook, which means they will look after the welfare of the entire population (health and education) whilst one in particular is anything but, which creates some social issues and a large gap between rich and poor.

Not much has changed since Dickensian England, and England is not the only place I have in mind as I post this.

Ethnically similar, yet very different! It is quite amazing actually!

Prey continue!

[Paphitis]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

Yes, less social cohesion is the price we pay for capitalism. The fall-out is what Cowboy referred to as the American tradition of promoting the "individual."

No I don't think capitalism is at fault here.

All nations mentioned so far (UK, NZ, AUS, CAN) are capitalist societies. Some are just a little more 'progressive' than others with a fully functioning social security network and perhaps have slightly better political ideals.

In many respects, a degree of capitalism is also quite healthy for any society because it promotes a bit of competition and with that we have progress, and development.

[Filitsa]

Teamwork doesnt necessarily mean plowing a field together, but it could also mean sharing information with one another freely...Americans dont hesitate to share they are more collaborative, ask a cypriot a question and you get half answers, a little byzantine intrique in every cypriot..with the greeks and cypriots you said too many chiefs and not enough indians...from that what collaboration or sharing of information would these people be willing to share when they are in competition with everyone around them....

Okay, collaboration and progress are characteristic of the American work ethic.. ... But again, they're not uniquely American.

if they arent uniquely american who else can you use as an example?

Great Britain. America was founded on British culture. New Zealand: progressive political ideals, government, health care, and social welfare.

New Zealand and Australia were also predominately British. You can also add Canada. But each country has its own unique traditions, and culture.

There are vast differences between these nations. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are far more socialist than the States as you say, and yet they are all predominately from the same stock! The US is more ruthlessly competitive, which gives it an edge in many respects, but at a price of less social cohesion.

Yes, less social cohesion is the price we pay for capitalism. The fall-out is what Cowboy referred to as the American tradition of promoting the "individual."

No I don't think capitalism is at fault here.

All nations mentioned so far (UK, NZ, AUS, CAN) are capitalist societies. Some are just a little more 'progressive' than others with a fully functioning social security network and perhaps have slightly better political ideals.

In many respects, a degree of capitalism is also quite healthy for any society because it promotes a bit of competition and with that we have progress, and development.

To every yin there is a yang. My reply was not a value judgment on capitalism, just pointing out its yang. Good government creates the balance. In the U.S., capitalists rule, thus less social cohesion than the other countries you mentioned.

[Lit]

This just in from London-istan: Violent clashes outside U.S. Embassy after hundreds of UK Muslims stage mock funeral for 'murdered' Bin Laden

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1LbccrdJM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... bassy.html

[Lit]

This just in from London-istan: Violent clashes outside U.S. Embassy after hundreds of UK Muslims stage mock funeral for 'murdered' Bin Laden

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1LbccrdJM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... bassy.html

Here's more:

Choudary has praised both the 7/7 and 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1LbdWndiB

No wonder people from London-istan in this forum keep talking about the downfall of the US. Crazy kooks.