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[kurupetos]

Good luck to you, as long as you stay your side of the border.

Our borders end in Kyrenia and Karpasia.

[ZoC]

Stop kidding yourself,Piratis...
You cannot compare the other minorities with the TCs...You never hated them and wished them ill as much as you hated and actively worked to destroy the TCs.. The point with Erdogan's comments is that he no longer feels the need to pretend Turkey is in Cyprus just to look after the interests of the TCs...He feels secure enough to tell the world to go and jump,Turkey will not give up an inch of Cyprus...

STOP THE PRESS! Turkey in "we don't want to give back what we've stolen" SHOCK! i'm sure the whole world will stop spinning on its access for a while to recover from that revelation.

And my point is that you have worked hard to undermind and destroy the TCs,walked into Turkey's hands,and now there is no way you will get Turkey to leave Cyprus...You can be very proud of your success in cutting off your nose to spite your face! Now you can face the world without a nose,and explain to the future generations of Cypriots how you came about to lose 37% of their country! You can only hope they will be gullible enough to believe the idiotic propaganda/misinformation campaign you've been waging here,because if they don't they will be spitting in your face from morning till night...

birk. ur nuts.

Yeah??? Which part of what I have written above don't you agree with and why???

i object to u blaming free cypriots for stuff that happened two generations ago. i object to ur suggestion that future generations will blame this generation for why turkey invaded and occupies cyprus. the whole of anatolia and some of thrace has been lost to eastern nomadic, expansionist, islamic tribes. it's not the fault of the displaced indigenous folk of the time that this happened. i don't expect u to understand any of this because ur either a mouthpiece of the invader or nuts. i gave u the benefit of the doubt by calling u nuts.

[wyoming cowboy]

Bir, I do not for a minute understimate Erdoghan or Davut's cunning. The salient point here is the word cunning, as opposed to intelligenece. What started out as a policy of zero problems with their neighbors has seen instead the gradual growing hostility of neighbors in view of the grandiose and anachronistic neo-ottoman goals.

Turkey is stuck in a bind, it does not want to recognise Cypriotness, expressing this fossilised view through its refusal to rcognise the RoC and its treatment of the TCs. Therofore it tries desperately to define the situation as one of Greeks and Turks. A position that Greece managed to sidestep decades ago.

To come to the title of this tread. The situation challenges the GC side more than Turkey. Now is the time for high diplomacy, and definitely NOT for the attitude displayed in the title of the thread re "handouts" etc. Now is the time to show solidarity to the TCs but without inviting accusations against them that they are "colluding with the enemy". It is a tough call, but it could be done if the GC leadership can think out of the box for once.

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC....

[boulio]

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC

not with eroglu at the healm,unless turkey has a large say in it.Again i think the biggest sticking point will be guranntees.Turkey will not allow a force to be stationed in a unified cyprus(not greece per say)without having something to say about it.

[wyoming cowboy]

Eroglu may be the best to have in the tc healm because he would be the only one capable of bringing in the tc extremist into a solution, Guarantees will probably not be in the solution, because it would give the right of a non EU country invasion rights on EU territory although a permanent Turk base would exist, like the SBA, im sounding like I know but its pure speculation.

[Viewpoint]

Bir, I do not for a minute understimate Erdoghan or Davut's cunning. The salient point here is the word cunning, as opposed to intelligenece. What started out as a policy of zero problems with their neighbors has seen instead the gradual growing hostility of neighbors in view of the grandiose and anachronistic neo-ottoman goals.

Turkey is stuck in a bind, it does not want to recognise Cypriotness, expressing this fossilised view through its refusal to rcognise the RoC and its treatment of the TCs. Therofore it tries desperately to define the situation as one of Greeks and Turks. A position that Greece managed to sidestep decades ago.

To come to the title of this tread. The situation challenges the GC side more than Turkey. Now is the time for high diplomacy, and definitely NOT for the attitude displayed in the title of the thread re "handouts" etc. Now is the time to show solidarity to the TCs but without inviting accusations against them that they are "colluding with the enemy". It is a tough call, but it could be done if the GC leadership can think out of the box for once.

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC....

The GCs would never be so bold to take such a step.

[SpartanGamer]

Bir, I do not for a minute understimate Erdoghan or Davut's cunning. The salient point here is the word cunning, as opposed to intelligenece. What started out as a policy of zero problems with their neighbors has seen instead the gradual growing hostility of neighbors in view of the grandiose and anachronistic neo-ottoman goals.

Turkey is stuck in a bind, it does not want to recognise Cypriotness, expressing this fossilised view through its refusal to rcognise the RoC and its treatment of the TCs. Therofore it tries desperately to define the situation as one of Greeks and Turks. A position that Greece managed to sidestep decades ago.

To come to the title of this tread. The situation challenges the GC side more than Turkey. Now is the time for high diplomacy, and definitely NOT for the attitude displayed in the title of the thread re "handouts" etc. Now is the time to show solidarity to the TCs but without inviting accusations against them that they are "colluding with the enemy". It is a tough call, but it could be done if the GC leadership can think out of the box for once.

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC....

The GCs would never be so bold to take such a step.

The GCs were bold enough to say NO to Anan and YES to EU. What have you done?

[Viewpoint]

Bir, I do not for a minute understimate Erdoghan or Davut's cunning. The salient point here is the word cunning, as opposed to intelligenece. What started out as a policy of zero problems with their neighbors has seen instead the gradual growing hostility of neighbors in view of the grandiose and anachronistic neo-ottoman goals.

Turkey is stuck in a bind, it does not want to recognise Cypriotness, expressing this fossilised view through its refusal to rcognise the RoC and its treatment of the TCs. Therofore it tries desperately to define the situation as one of Greeks and Turks. A position that Greece managed to sidestep decades ago.

To come to the title of this tread. The situation challenges the GC side more than Turkey. Now is the time for high diplomacy, and definitely NOT for the attitude displayed in the title of the thread re "handouts" etc. Now is the time to show solidarity to the TCs but without inviting accusations against them that they are "colluding with the enemy". It is a tough call, but it could be done if the GC leadership can think out of the box for once.

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC....

The GCs would never be so bold to take such a step.

The GCs were bold enough to say NO to Anan and YES to EU. What have you done?

That was stupidity not boldness.

[SpartanGamer]

Bir, I do not for a minute understimate Erdoghan or Davut's cunning. The salient point here is the word cunning, as opposed to intelligenece. What started out as a policy of zero problems with their neighbors has seen instead the gradual growing hostility of neighbors in view of the grandiose and anachronistic neo-ottoman goals.

Turkey is stuck in a bind, it does not want to recognise Cypriotness, expressing this fossilised view through its refusal to rcognise the RoC and its treatment of the TCs. Therofore it tries desperately to define the situation as one of Greeks and Turks. A position that Greece managed to sidestep decades ago.

To come to the title of this tread. The situation challenges the GC side more than Turkey. Now is the time for high diplomacy, and definitely NOT for the attitude displayed in the title of the thread re "handouts" etc. Now is the time to show solidarity to the TCs but without inviting accusations against them that they are "colluding with the enemy". It is a tough call, but it could be done if the GC leadership can think out of the box for once.

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC....

The GCs would never be so bold to take such a step.

The GCs were bold enough to say NO to Anan and YES to EU. What have you done?

That was stupidity not boldness.

So what have you done?

[Viewpoint]

Bir, I do not for a minute understimate Erdoghan or Davut's cunning. The salient point here is the word cunning, as opposed to intelligenece. What started out as a policy of zero problems with their neighbors has seen instead the gradual growing hostility of neighbors in view of the grandiose and anachronistic neo-ottoman goals.

Turkey is stuck in a bind, it does not want to recognise Cypriotness, expressing this fossilised view through its refusal to rcognise the RoC and its treatment of the TCs. Therofore it tries desperately to define the situation as one of Greeks and Turks. A position that Greece managed to sidestep decades ago.

To come to the title of this tread. The situation challenges the GC side more than Turkey. Now is the time for high diplomacy, and definitely NOT for the attitude displayed in the title of the thread re "handouts" etc. Now is the time to show solidarity to the TCs but without inviting accusations against them that they are "colluding with the enemy". It is a tough call, but it could be done if the GC leadership can think out of the box for once.

Good points Nikitas, the word "handouts" was not appropriate, a more appropritate phrase could of been Tc looking towards the RoC and a unitary state. high level diplomacy and some serious soul searching by the Greek cyps needs to come. My instinct tells me that things are coming closer and faster then we had previously thought. Turkey needs a solution to the Cyprus problem as much as the
Greek cyps and Greece. The main agreement would have to be between Greece and Turkey, Erdogan pushing away the Tc like he did the past two days is a green light to the Cyprus government to begin its high level diplomacy in bringing the Tc within the realm of the ROC....

The GCs would never be so bold to take such a step.

The GCs were bold enough to say NO to Anan and YES to EU. What have you done?

That was stupidity not boldness.

So what have you done?

Done?? please clarify.