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The colorful mixture of “Greeks”...

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Postby insan » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:41 pm

... and here is "Greeks" of Afganistan... :shock:

One useful tool that some scholars have emphasized in determining the Greek ancestry of the Kalash is their religion. However, there is no appearance of Greek gods under different names. The location of the Kalash dictates that it could have been imported from other local cultures or merged to form a distinct Kalash tradition that has nothing to do with Greeks. There is firstly a great emphasis on dualism (light/good and darkness/evil) that is surely influenced by the Buddhist, Manichean, and Zoroastrian heritage of the region stretching from Tajikistan to Kashmir under Iranian hegemony. The Kalash apparently divide their worldview into a system of male and female realms, and gendered aspects of reality and life ruled over by gods and goddesses. The Kalash worship nature, animals, and spirits. None of these religious qualities seem to derive from original Greek religion of Alexander. No Zeus, Hera, Apollo, or Athena. No titans and Promethian myths. Of course, the Kalash as possible Greek settlers could easily have invented and adopted their own religion by drawing from eclectic local inspirations. Therefore, religion fails to be a good litmus for determining an Alexandrian and Greek link. The modern religious mysticism of the Kalash may simply be a blend of the Greco-Kushan Buddhist tradition and Zoroastrian/Manichean dualism that evolved into its own new form after the jihad of invading Muslim sultanates abolished Buddhism and destroyed nearly all temples and statues of the Buddha in India. There is much influence from the more core tenets of Hinduism or its Vedic predecessor that came to India in the 2nd millennium BCE via the Aryan invasion. Belief in Indra and emphasis on the bull/cow are present, revealing links with Iranian and Vedic tradition. The Kalash emphasis on fertility rites, nature, statues, and gendered gods is common to the Vedic, Hindu, Mahayana Buddhist, and Manichean traditions that dominated the region throughout history.

It would seem that the Kalash are simply yet another one of many unique and disparate tribes found throughout Central Asia, the Pamirs, and the Kush with what are abstractly described as "European" features. Many of these settled in the region with Alexander's expansion, many with the Turkic and Hunnic conquest. Many are simply Iranians with recessive eye color genes who spread east via early Persian conquests. Almost certainly, they are not Greek or migrants from Europe, nor are any of the “white” tribes of Central & South Asia, the Pamirs, or the Hindu Kush. Blue eyes and light-brown hair in Tajikistan and the Tarim Basin of China does not translate to European immigration or invasion.

Recently, the European Journal of Human Genetics published a scholarly article proving a lack of Greek genetic influence in the region by using Y-chromosomal testing (see article, thanks to Mictrik).


http://euroheritage.net/greeksinasia.shtml

The ancient "Greek" ladies...

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Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:44 pm

:shock: They look like direct descendants of Evripides to me! :lol:


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Oppa! :D


Ella manga, dis-din boutcha fiongo! :lol:
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Postby Lit » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:03 pm

Get Real! wrote:Let’s take a closer look at the first…

Gypsies of Greece:

During the 14th century Greece became a station along the Gypsies’ route from India to the west, which had begun in 8th or 9th century. Eventually, choosing it as their “homeland”, they remained. Later, as a result of the population exchange between Greece and Turkey in 1923, other Gypsies came from Asia Minor and yet others from the Balkans decided to move here.

http://www.cretegazette.com/2006-04/gypsies-greece.php


Roma in Greece:

The Romani people of Greece are called Arlije/Erlides, Tsiganoi or the more derogatory term Gyftoi.

There were between 300,000 and 350,000 Roma in Greece, according to an estimate published by Greek Helsinki Monitor in 1999. The Greek Government estimates place their number between 200,000 and 300,000. The Romani minority comprise around 3% of the total Greek population.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_in_Greece


Mmm… well I can already see why someone like Piratis can relate to Greeks! :lol:


Like there are no Gypsies in Cyprus. Nobody here is interested (apart from your insignificant clan) in your hatred of Gypsies and Roma. What a filthy racist.
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Postby Klik » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:13 am

Hahahahhahaahahahahaha you decide to comment on Greeks not being Greeks by using the Roma as example? Who until the late 90s were STILL OPPRESSED and LIVED IN TENTS? :lol:

Ever been to Greece in the 90s? Where you'd sit at a restaurant and either Roma people or Albanian people would come and beg for food/money? Even today it happens(though it's overshadowed by the treason of illegal immigration)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQPX1kA_5Tg

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Postby Mikiko » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:00 pm

When many Greek Women want to become the next Julia Alexandratou then what more should anyone expect ....This is their idol now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Alexandratou
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:12 pm

Mikiko wrote:When many Greek Women want to become the next Julia Alexandratou then what more should anyone expect ....This is their idol now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Alexandratou


...mother who hails from London, England, named Allison Hunt


Bad genes! :wink:
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Postby Mikiko » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:18 pm

This is the mixture of genes that Get Real was refering to :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:09 pm

Albanians in Greece are divided into distinct communities as a result of different waves of migration. Albanians first migrated into Greece during late Middle Ages (late 13th century). The descendants of populations of Albanian origin who settled in Greece during the Middle Ages are the Arvanites, who have been fully assimilated into the Greek nation and self-identify as Greeks. Today, they still maintain their distinct subdialect of Tosk Albanian, known as Arvanitika.

According to the 2001 census, there are 443,550 holders of Albanian citizenship in Greece


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_c ... _in_Greece
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:23 pm

Lit wrote:What a filthy racist.

Can't possibly be as filthy as them Gypsies... :lol:
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Postby Lit » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:What a filthy racist.

Can't possibly be as filthy as them Gypsies... :lol:


Well you have Gypsies here as well. Walk by the strip in lemesos on any given Sunday to see the Sri-lankans. We have Brits, Russians, Latins, Maronites, Armenians, Bulgarians, Romanian, Pontic and a whole lot of other people. Welcome to the EU...you idiot. LOL
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