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[DTA]

So it happened on both sides, so if it was ethnic cleansing by one side then it would also be ethnic cleansing on both sides, would you not say?

[HBarbaros]

So it happened on both sides, so if it was ethnic cleansing by one side then it would also be ethnic cleansing on both sides, would you not say?

Ethnic cleansing of the Turkish Cypriots started in 1963. The Greek Cypriots prefer to call it everything else except what it was. They go on and on about how we had no problems 5 years before 74, but forget that not one Turkish Cypriot chose to go back to their home they left in 1963. Needless to say their homes were mostly flattened anyway. Unfortunately the international community legitemised all this by accepting the Greek Cypriots as the legitemate government despite these atrocities.

[DTA]

I understand what happened in the 60s my dads family had to leave Cyprus in 68.

But for this thread I wanted to find out what happened to the tcs that lived in the south after 74 it seems that what happened to gcs in the north also happened to the tcs in the south. And therefore if gcs claim they were ethnically cleansed after 74 they have to recognise that they to ethnically cleansed tcs also after 74.

[Piratis]

DTA,

I think even you realise that you are wasting your breathe and time with this thread.

The TCs believed the Turkish invasion liberated them at the time.

Seeing as the dream has now turned into a nightmare for your community and to dismiss your predicament as some kind of GC ethnic cleansing is preposterous.

Look closely at Turkeys policy on the north before pointing the finger at us.

Turkey has done everything they can to obliterate you - some TCs will not accept this, but like one of the sheep you blame your impending on the GCs.

I dont know what you are getting at here. Whether Turkey came to rescue us or not, is not the question here.

The fact is that I recently found out that TCs were taken from their homes by the GC army post 74 and made to move to the North, the question is in what way was that different from the GCs being made to move south?

and you nor anyone else has been able to give me any kind of credible answer.

So please feel free to try.

I am aware of one person who refused to go to the north and wanted to stay in their home, but was not allowed so he came to London instead.
People at the time did not have a choice.

Who definitely had a choice was the Turkish leadership. Instead of obeying the UN resolutions they choose to insist on their criminal, illegal plan of dividing Cyprus by means of ethnic cleansing.

And while a few TCs might not agreed with their leadership, the unfortunate fact is that most of them were hell bent to partition Cyprus by means of ethnic cleansing, something which they continue to support until today.

So stop trying to present TCs as victims of ethnic cleansing, because ethnic cleansing and partition, particularly one where they would grab twice as much in the north than what they would left behind, was and continues to be their AIM.

[DTA]

No pirates it is not that easy if any I don't know if it is the case that the vast majority of tcs were forced out of their homes by the gc army post 74 then you never have the right to say the present divide was the product of post war ethnic cleansing by turkey and the tcs because the gcs sone it as well.

[Piratis]

So it happened on both sides, so if it was ethnic cleansing by one side then it would also be ethnic cleansing on both sides, would you not say?

Ethnic cleansing of the Turkish Cypriots started in 1963. The Greek Cypriots prefer to call it everything else except what it was. They go on and on about how we had no problems 5 years before 74, but forget that not one Turkish Cypriot chose to go back to their home they left in 1963. Needless to say their homes were mostly flattened anyway. Unfortunately the international community legitemised all this by accepting the Greek Cypriots as the legitemate government despite these atrocities.

The TCs are the ones who initiated the inter-communal conflict. Here is what Denktash said in 1964: "We wish to establish a federal administration in Cyprus. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to move a portion of the Turks from one place to another place and to concentrate our people in certain parts of the island"

In 1968 most TCs were allowed by their own leadership to return to their homes and most of them did.

The atrocities committed by the Turks against the Cypriot people from the time they set their foot on our island until today are enormous. We are talking about many 10s of thousands of people murdered and 100s of thousands ethnically cleansed, not to mention the rapes and oppression.

All that the Cypriot people fought for was for freedom and democracy so we could freely and democratically determine the destiny of our own island. The Turks never accepted this and they continued with their usual criminal actions in their attempt to keep Cyprus enslaved.

[Piratis]

No pirates it is not that easy if any I don't know if it is the case that the vast majority of tcs were forced out of their homes by the gc army post 74 then you never have the right to say the present divide was the product of post war ethnic cleansing by turkey and the tcs because the gcs sone it as well.

Nonsense. The Turks supported and continue to support ethnic cleansing because they WANT to split Cyprus in two. Without ethnic cleansing the WHOLE of Cyprus would have a GC majority, as it was the case for 1000s of years until 1974.

If you don't want ethnic cleansing then why don't you agree that all Cypriots should be free to return to their own homes? Ethnic cleansing and partition was the aim of the Turkish side since the 50s, it was because of the Turkish invasion that ethnic cleansing happened, and it is because of your insistence to illegally Turkify north Cyprus that people were not allowed to return to their own homes since then.

No ethnic cleansing = Majority of GCs in whole Cyprus = No "Turkish State" = no partition.

[Jimski999]

DTA
As I stated; the TC's were forced to go to the North as part of the Cease Fire agreement demanded by the Turkish Army. The GC's were forced out of the North by the Turkish Army so you could say both groups were ethnically cleansed but by the Turkish Army.

Jimski

[quattro]

Who remembers the agreement Denktash, Clerides for population exchange ?
this was all about.

[denizaksulu]

Who remembers the agreement Denktash, Clerides for population exchange ?
this was all about.

It wa re-posted here a few months ago.