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Can’t find a “Greece” on the map!

Cypriots need to wake up to the fact that Greece is a 19th century creation (1829 to be more precise). Prior to that no such place as “Greece” EVER existed!

Trying to find a place called “Greece”…

Map of Europe 800AD - Greece here is called “East Roman Empire”
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/900eur.jpg

Map of Europe 1000AD - Greece here is part of the Byzantine Empire
(NB: Major chunk of modern Greece is labeled Bulgaria!)
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... 58-059.jpg

Map of Europe 1200AD - Greece here is part of the Byzantine Empire
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... n_1190.jpg

Map of Europe 1300AD - Greece here is ignored! ???
http://www.verselink.org/maps/christianity_dev_1300.jpg

Map of Europe 1400AD - Greece here is part of the Osmans.
http://www.nonformality.org/wp-content/ ... -large.jpg

Map of Europe 1815AD - Greece here is still part of the Ottoman Empire.
http://www.reisenett.no/map_collection/ ... 5_1905.jpg

This 1850 map is still not aware of anything called “Greece”!
http://www.miklianmaps.com/images/1850% ... alkans.jpg


I give up! I can’t find a single authentic map from the 1800s that includes an entity called “Greece”!

So calling Cypriots “Greek Cypriots” means what exactly?

That our great grandparents were in Greece in 1830 because I assure you mine were not!


Regards, MP.

[denizaksulu]

Can’t find a “Greece” on the map!

Cypriots need to wake up to the fact that Greece is a 19th century creation (1829 to be more precise). Prior to that no such place as “Greece” EVER existed!

Trying to find a place called “Greece”…

Map of Europe 800AD - Greece here is called “East Roman Empire”
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/900eur.jpg

Map of Europe 1000AD - Greece here is part of the Byzantine Empire
(NB: Major chunk of modern Greece is labeled Bulgaria!)
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... 58-059.jpg

Map of Europe 1200AD - Greece here is part of the Byzantine Empire
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... n_1190.jpg

Map of Europe 1300AD - Greece here is ignored! ???
http://www.verselink.org/maps/christianity_dev_1300.jpg

Map of Europe 1400AD - Greece here is part of the Osmans.
http://www.nonformality.org/wp-content/ ... -large.jpg

Map of Europe 1815AD - Greece here is still part of the Ottoman Empire.
http://www.reisenett.no/map_collection/ ... 5_1905.jpg

This 1850 map is still not aware of anything called “Greece”!
http://www.miklianmaps.com/images/1850% ... alkans.jpg


I give up! I can’t find a single authentic map from the 1800s that includes an entity called “Greece”!

So calling Cypriots “Greek Cypriots” means what exactly?

That our great grandparents were in Greece in 1830 because I assure you mine were not!


Regards, MP.

So the modern Greeks are Ottoman remnants too. Thats all we needed

[Get Real!]

So the modern Greeks are Ottoman remnants too. Thats all we needed

In the early 1800s there were around 1 million of these "Greeks" who took Bulgarians, Albanians, Gypsies, and some other people and formed "Greece" so within a few years this population swelled to about 3-4 million and claimed direct inheritance to “ancient Greeks”!

[denizaksulu]

So the modern Greeks are Ottoman remnants too. Thats all we needed

In the early 1800s there were around 1 million of these "Greeks" who took Bulgarians, Albanians, Gypsies, and some other people and formed "Greece" so within a few years this population swelled to about 3-4 million and claimed direct inheritance to “ancient Greeks”!

A Greek Tragedy..........oops sorry, A Greek Comedy

[boulio]

http://www.gallery.oldbookart.com/main. ... ewsIndex=1

the kingdom of greece was formed in 1830 with a population of about 1.5 million as the years went on greece gaining territories aos gained her population back.the largest influx of greeks came with the asia minor catastrohe were 1.5 -2 million greeks came to what amounts to modern greece.

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Ise oti pio sapio efkale touti i koinwnia...

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Can’t find a “Greece” on the map!

Cypriots need to wake up to the fact that Greece is a 19th century creation (1829 to be more precise). Prior to that no such place as “Greece” EVER existed!

Trying to find a place called “Greece”…

Map of Europe 800AD - Greece here is called “East Roman Empire”
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/900eur.jpg

From the same link....

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/eb11-greece.html

Reading is fundamental. Read your own links . Pretty much answers all your questions and on Cyprus too. Also, you currently may not find this area on a map today but the mountain Turks still call some area in the middle east as Kurdistan. Now why is that?

[Get Real!]

Can’t find a “Greece” on the map!

Cypriots need to wake up to the fact that Greece is a 19th century creation (1829 to be more precise). Prior to that no such place as “Greece” EVER existed!

Trying to find a place called “Greece”…

Map of Europe 800AD - Greece here is called “East Roman Empire”
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/900eur.jpg

From the same link....

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/eb11-greece.html

Reading is fundamental. Read your own links . Pretty much answers all your questions and on Cyprus too. Also, you currently may not find this area on a map today but the mountain Turks still call some area in the middle east as Kurdistan. Now why is that?

Unfortunately for you, up to and including 1829 there was no such thing as Greece or Greeks anywhere on this planet, so any contemporary writings that refer to such labels/entities is nothing but a sham that was manufactured and propagated by these fraudsters in the early 1800s!

These people who call themselves “Greeks” today are nothing but an assortment of Bulgarians, Albanians, Ottomans, Slavs, and Gypsies, that have manufactured a false past based on fairytales and packaged themselves as a “distinct people with a 3,000 year history” when in reality they are a very recently manufactured state of anyone they could gather with a mere 180 years of “history”!

Yet they have the audacity to call themselves an “ethnos”!!!

Indeed… it’s an ethnos of Gypsies so it’s by no accident that this Gypsy state since its inception has NEVER achieved anything worthy of mention and has struggled throughout its existence to even feed itself!

[wyoming cowboy]

Can’t find a “Greece” on the map!

Cypriots need to wake up to the fact that Greece is a 19th century creation (1829 to be more precise). Prior to that no such place as “Greece” EVER existed!

Trying to find a place called “Greece”…

Map of Europe 800AD - Greece here is called “East Roman Empire”
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/maps/900eur.jpg

Map of Europe 1000AD - Greece here is part of the Byzantine Empire
(NB: Major chunk of modern Greece is labeled Bulgaria!)
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... 58-059.jpg

Map of Europe 1200AD - Greece here is part of the Byzantine Empire
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historic ... n_1190.jpg

Map of Europe 1300AD - Greece here is ignored! ???
http://www.verselink.org/maps/christianity_dev_1300.jpg

Map of Europe 1400AD - Greece here is part of the Osmans.
http://www.nonformality.org/wp-content/ ... -large.jpg

Map of Europe 1815AD - Greece here is still part of the Ottoman Empire.
http://www.reisenett.no/map_collection/ ... 5_1905.jpg

This 1850 map is still not aware of anything called “Greece”!
http://www.miklianmaps.com/images/1850% ... alkans.jpg


I give up! I can’t find a single authentic map from the 1800s that includes an entity called “Greece”!

So calling Cypriots “Greek Cypriots” means what exactly?

That our great grandparents were in Greece in 1830 because I assure you mine were not!


Regards, MP.

what is it with you and this anti Greek stuff? you live with Greek cypriots, you work with them you probably talk to them and have them as your friends....what is this deep rooted antipathy of Greeks and their culture....I understand some of the older generation felt let down in 74 but its time to let go dude....now go and have a Gyro or baklava or a pizza on me.... and have a nice day!!!!!

[Get Real!]

Ise oti pio sapio efkale touti i koinwnia...

This Gypsy here is upset and calling me “the most rotten to have emerged from society” because I am ruining his scam by exposing their lies!

You see, if you lookup the word “rotten” in a Gypsy dictionary you’ll find…

“He who exposes our scams and lies!”