Klik wrote:Get Real! also confused Greeks with the small land they consider home now.
Greeks were all over the world in the past.
Besides mainland Greece and Cyprus where they still are the majority, they used to be in Northen Africa, Anatolia(Turkey), from the Middle East to India, present day Italy, Spanish western coast, French south coast as well as far as Britain. And this is just the BC years.
You can't find Greece on the map. What about Italy? Or Spain? Where is Spain? Ukraine? Romania? Germany? Slovenia? Or even Cyprus which you claim is the cradle of civilization?
You think some fancy naming of "Kingdom of Italy" and "Kingdom of Germany" on some maps are actually how they called themselves?
Italy was a GREEK term used for CALABRIA and it became the name of GREEK CITIZENS OF SOUTHERN ITALY when the Romans went there. They were so impressed with the architecture and the culture they found, they adopted the name and culture. The term Italy "died" ever since the Byzantine Empire was implemented (also called GRECO-ROMAN EMPIRE) just as the term Greek didn't mean much. It was a UNITED RACE. Greeks and Italians living under one flag. Until the greed forced them apart. 19th century, NATIONS started to develop. Both Italy and Greece had to create their own. They combined according to identity. Italians have somehow achieved their nation. Greece still hasn't and now there's not much of a nation left outside the borders since the Turks and Nassr massacred almost all of them
Italy as an "idea" started in the early 19th century. Germany as an idea involved AUSTRIA as well, because they were called Germanic people. There was no Germany on any map before Bismarck marked the unification, excluding Austria!
It was all about Prussia, Bavaria, Austria in Germany.... Lombardia, Piedmont, Napoli etc in Italy!
I love giving you history lessons but I think i'll start charging after this one. It was supposed to be 1st lesson free but it became like first 10 lessons free so far
Also, Kingdom of Cyprus 1190.. Are you gonna use that as well? Or do you wanna know that a lord BOUGHT Cyprus and gave the island an "independent" status, which meant that person and his children and their children would rule the place without giving a damn about its people...?
Before coming out with another "bright" idea, read a book or twenty, cross-reference what you'll say some 25 times, then come and post your crap. And don't start with your turn forward coz you have already reached the bottom of the barrel, don't try digging even lower, you''ll hit your head...
I guess all we can do with rotten stuff is throw them away. Because if we leave them be, they will get pests all over the place. Cyprus has enough pests since 1571, don't bring us more and save yourself from the misery.
Greece is the idea of pan-Hellinism. Failed? Maybe. Still at works? Could be. The so called "Megali Idea" is not one of senseless expansionism, but a liberation of the lands. It started in 1821 and would have succeded by early 1920s if there wasn't any backstabbing and treason within(usual stuff)
Interesting subjects:
Greco-Buddhism How the Greeks changed the way of life in the Far East...
Elche, Alicante Two Spanish cities who celebrate their Greek history
Calabria/Sicily populations Speak with people from there and they will tell you of the pride they feel about having possibly Greek roots!
Kalesh see how some people in central Asia have preserved their Greek culture as much as possible from ancient times till today.
Greece is an idea that apparently you cannot grasp. Feel free to drool over some maps your mind doesn't have the capacity to understand...
And on a finishing note, HOW ON EARTH DO THESE MAPS PROVE YOUR THEORY THAT GREEKS ARE SLAVS?
More like Italians vs Turks isn't it?
Dufous....
Hands off her pomelori............. 
