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[wyoming cowboy]

GR, do a similar "investigation" and tell us at which date you start to see a Germany, Italy, Turkey, Austria etc on the map. When was the United Kingdom formed as national entity?

Most nation states have a founding date which has nothing to do with their national existence and identity. Germany being the most classic example of national founding by blood and fire which is still an ongoing process.

As a widely traveled man you must have been to Italy, where every town has a street or piazza honoring Garibaldi, the man who united Italy in the mid 19th century, ie after Greece.

But you are hellbent on establishing the republic of Chorokitia, at some point in the distant future and have no time for detailed studies.

there is a city in sicily named Nicosia by the way

[wyoming cowboy]

I agree with Klik , south Italy has preserved greek dialet ( grico ) which is still similar to modern greek
short poem below

Εβώ πάντα σε σένα πενσέω,
γιατί σένα φσυχή μου 'γαπώ,
τσαι που πάω, που σύρνω, που στέω
στην καρδιά μου πάντα σένα βαστώ.

Evò panta se sena pensèo,
jatì sena fsichì mu gapò,
ce pu pao, pu sirno, pu steo
stin kardìa mu panta sena vastò.


I dont know if it depends upon my skill or just because we have same roots but for me understand greek is easy ( more easy than German for example ) my cipriot family says filoglossìa

oh beautiful Daniella I would love to slice through your Pomelori one day..

[Klik]

And there's a city called Athens in Georgia, USA

Do you wanna get me started on Barcelona, Lisbon, Scotland, Rome and all other ancient Greek cities that the world denies now?

ΕΣΕΤΑΙ ΗΜΑΡ... live with it

[Mikiko]

The Myths are collapsing KLIK ......

I am refering long before that (Ancient History) as history can not be interpreted selectively and skip parts to suit your own vesrion:

Evagoras was a Cypriot fighting for independence:

Cyprus gained independence for some time around 669 but was conquered by Egypt under Amasis (570-526/525). The island was conquered by the Persians around 545 BC. A Persian palace has been excavated in the territory of Marion on the North coast near Soli. The inhabitants took part in the Ionian rising. At the beginning of the 4th century BC, Euagoras I, King of Salamis, took control of the whole island and tried to gain independence from Persia. Another uprising took place in 350 but was crushed by Artaxerxes in 344.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cyprus

Ask your professors to teach you what the term Independence mean. Also it had a short period of independence before Evagoras was in charge but you are very selective when reading an article . This is very common its becoming a modern syndrome to skip events we dont want to hear....

I repeat again Enosis claim was very recent compared to the long trouble history of the island and not even aproved by Greece . These are the facts! I know you will answer YES BUT BUT BUT to find all sort of excuses YES BUT ..........These are rubish thrown in to the dustbin...

Mikiko, you sound like you have been influenced by some Turks or the English guy who wrote "Bitter Lemons" during the 1950's. Who are you to tell me a, Greek Cypriot, what I am and what my history is. Micro analysing the situation you will find identical customs and traditions from the northern Greeks of Greece,Spartan Greeks,etcetc..., to the island Greeks (Crete,Rhodes,Dodecanese Islands, Pontic Greeks, to Cyprus and beyond) and these customs and traditions can be traced back to the Ancient Greeks and if I may add are still unique to all these Hellenes.

Who are you to tell the people who live on the island who are they ? You may be a cypriot of Greek origin but that does not imply that you are 100% Greek as there are many cultures co inhabiting the island before the Greek gypsies came to settle in . But you may be a pontian Greek also . The majority who live in US are Americans so the majority who live in Cyprus are Cypriots I hope you agree on this basic analysis or you want to make a double standard blinker analysis that does not apply to any other country .

It is a huge Hypocricy for these people who make Cyprus as an exceptional case of the world history to demand a settlement that is in accordance to international rules and laws !!

[Klik]

Cyprus, Austria, Northern Ireland, FYROM, "Kosovo", Monaco, San Marino, Luxembourg... that's just in Europe. Also Belgium different story.

Only country that actually on its own accord created a new identity and the global scene is 'ok' with it is Austria. And that is because it was an agreement in the end with the rest of the Germans.

Cyprus is a unique case. And check every encyclopedia on Cyprus. Population of ethnic groups within Cyprus: Greek, Armenian etc... nowhere you find Cypriot. Because Cyprus is just part of the Greek world, not something different. If you fail to realise this just because of a flag and a piece of paper then you have no hope of understanding what the real story behind the independence is.

[Get Real!]

The majority of Cypriots are Greek. Just the people that were out celebrating in the streets that night (a fraction of GCs) are more than any minority in Cyprus.

No, that’s a load of rubbish. These “Greeks” are nothing but Albanians, Bulgarians, leftover Ottomans, Slavs, and Gypsies that mixed to form this modern “Greece”.

You need to wake up to the hard FACTS and forget the fairytales they sold you in primary and secondary Greek school!

What story did you expect them to sell you? If they tell you the truth you won’t even want to look at them afterwards!

[Get Real!]

CCyprus is a unique case. And check every encyclopedia on Cyprus.

Shhhhhhhhhh! You've already shown in other threads what an incompetent Albanian hillbilly you are so why must you continue making a dork of your self?

[Klik]

CCyprus is a unique case. And check every encyclopedia on Cyprus.

Shhhhhhhhhh! You've already shown in other threads what an incompetent Albanian hillbilly you are so why must you continue making a dork of your self?

I think the only thing shown, and since the posts are still there, is what a buffoon you are and how nobody should take you seriously.

[Get Real!]

CCyprus is a unique case. And check every encyclopedia on Cyprus.

Shhhhhhhhhh! You've already shown in other threads what an incompetent Albanian hillbilly you are so why must you continue making a dork of your self?

I think the only thing shown, and since the posts are still there, is what a buffoon you are and how nobody should take you seriously.

Idiot, "And check every encyclopedia on Cyprus"

You mean PERTAINING to Cyprus! Otherwise it takes on a daft meaning!

Mathe agramadi maimouna na ekfrazese sosta!

[Mikiko]

Cyprus, Austria, Northern Ireland, FYROM, "Kosovo", Monaco, San Marino, Luxembourg... that's just in Europe. Also Belgium different story.

Only country that actually on its own accord created a new identity and the global scene is 'ok' with it is Austria. And that is because it was an agreement in the end with the rest of the Germans.

Cyprus is a unique case. And check every encyclopedia on Cyprus. Population of ethnic groups within Cyprus: Greek, Armenian etc... nowhere you find Cypriot. Because Cyprus is just part of the Greek world, not something different. If you fail to realise this just because of a flag and a piece of paper then you have no hope of understanding what the real story behind the independence is.

Austria one country one nation one language the Austrian language Although 98 % of the population are Germans they have the Austrian ethnicity so why did you refer to this case as it suports the opposite of what you are claiming ?????????????????? If Austrians being 98% Germans have not adopted the German ethnicity what is your arguments for the 80% Greeks in Cyprus ?

Demography. The 1998 population count was 8,078,449 (2000 estimate, 8,131,111), about 95 percent of whom were ethnic Austrian. Other numerically significant ethnic groups include Slovenes, Croats, and Czechs. Austria has one of the world's lowest birthrates, and much of the population is under age twenty-five or over sixty-five. About 65 percent of the population is urban, the largest city by far being Vienna (1.64 million).

BTW Northen Ireland is not an independent Country .Belgium and Switserland another examples !

The Myths are collapsing KLIK ......