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[Piratis]

Well Mikiko, your whole family could be straight and then you could turn up to be gay. It happens, but it is an exception not the norm. Just because you are in a certain way it doesn't mean everybody else should be like you. I have no problem with you not being Greek if that is what you believe, you are free to be whatever you want, but at the same time I expect from you to respect the fact that the majority of Cypriots are Greek.

[ZoC]

Klik, the point I was trying to make was beyond facts and "facts". The more important question should be whether having a Greek conscience prevents us from being Cypriot 100%. To use an analogy you probably would like, can we be like Athenains against Spartans or Macedonians? Don't tell me the Greek city state members did not sacrifice their lives for their cities' interests?

The answer is clearly that we can be Cypriot first. We can feel Greek or be Greek if you like, but always put our Cypriot interests first. There will ofcourse be a natural tendency to align Cypriot interests with Greek interests. Just as the Turkish Cypriots, would have a natural tendency to align Cypriots interests with Turkish insterests.

Already I see one major support for the further development of a Cypriot identity, regardless of ethnic background, we both would like to see the differences between Turkey and Greece diminish or evaporate as such a scenario would be most beneficial for Cyprus. Selling Greece to Turkey and vice versa could mean great financial rewards for the Cypriots.

Go in the street and ask 100 G-Cypriots these two questions:

1. Do you know who Evagoras was?
2. Do you feel Greek is a significant part of your identity?

It is logical to assume that the YESs will be 100% in question #2 (varying degrees, but 100% yes's).
What % would get #1 right? 10%?

Feelings rule mate!




http://antifon.blogspot.com



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pretty much the whole world would doubtless feel ur deluded... so, if feelings rule, u got even more problems.

[Lit]

Klik, the point I was trying to make was beyond facts and "facts". The more important question should be whether having a Greek conscience prevents us from being Cypriot 100%. To use an analogy you probably would like, can we be like Athenains against Spartans or Macedonians? Don't tell me the Greek city state members did not sacrifice their lives for their cities' interests?

The answer is clearly that we can be Cypriot first. We can feel Greek or be Greek if you like, but always put our Cypriot interests first. There will ofcourse be a natural tendency to align Cypriot interests with Greek interests. Just as the Turkish Cypriots, would have a natural tendency to align Cypriots interests with Turkish insterests.

Already I see one major support for the further development of a Cypriot identity, regardless of ethnic background, we both would like to see the differences between Turkey and Greece diminish or evaporate as such a scenario would be most beneficial for Cyprus. Selling Greece to Turkey and vice versa could mean great financial rewards for the Cypriots.

Go in the street and ask 100 G-Cypriots these two questions:

1. Do you know who Evagoras was?
2. Do you feel Greek is a significant part of your identity?

It is logical to assume that the YESs will be 100% in question #2 (varying degrees, but 100% yes's).
What % would get #1 right? 10%?

Feelings rule mate!




http://antifon.blogspot.com



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pretty much the whole world would doubtless feel ur deluded... so, if feelings rule, u got even more problems.

Zoc...you can believe whatever you want and people here would except your wishes. I suggest you return the favor and stop harassing other contributors of this forum who do not believe the same things you do.

[Lit]

The fact remains: over 90% of genuine Cypriots (i am assuming a TC population of circa 65.000) today FEEL a responsibility to carrying forward the Hellenic traditions. Does it matter if no single one of them can trace her roots back to Plato?

What on earth are you talking about here? What "hellenic" traditions???

Why not check your link out for answers?


http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/eb11-greece.html

LOL

[ZoC]

Klik, the point I was trying to make was beyond facts and "facts". The more important question should be whether having a Greek conscience prevents us from being Cypriot 100%. To use an analogy you probably would like, can we be like Athenains against Spartans or Macedonians? Don't tell me the Greek city state members did not sacrifice their lives for their cities' interests?

The answer is clearly that we can be Cypriot first. We can feel Greek or be Greek if you like, but always put our Cypriot interests first. There will ofcourse be a natural tendency to align Cypriot interests with Greek interests. Just as the Turkish Cypriots, would have a natural tendency to align Cypriots interests with Turkish insterests.

Already I see one major support for the further development of a Cypriot identity, regardless of ethnic background, we both would like to see the differences between Turkey and Greece diminish or evaporate as such a scenario would be most beneficial for Cyprus. Selling Greece to Turkey and vice versa could mean great financial rewards for the Cypriots.

Go in the street and ask 100 G-Cypriots these two questions:

1. Do you know who Evagoras was?
2. Do you feel Greek is a significant part of your identity?

It is logical to assume that the YESs will be 100% in question #2 (varying degrees, but 100% yes's).
What % would get #1 right? 10%?

Feelings rule mate!




http://antifon.blogspot.com



.

pretty much the whole world would doubtless feel ur deluded... so, if feelings rule, u got even more problems.

Zoc...you can believe whatever you want and people here would except your wishes. I suggest you return the favor and stop harassing other contributors of this forum who do not believe the same things you do.

harrassing? this is rhetorical exchange! call urself a greek? u'd have lasted five minutes at the stoa in ancient athens.

[antifon]

Klik, the point I was trying to make was beyond facts and "facts". The more important question should be whether having a Greek conscience prevents us from being Cypriot 100%. To use an analogy you probably would like, can we be like Athenains against Spartans or Macedonians? Don't tell me the Greek city state members did not sacrifice their lives for their cities' interests?

The answer is clearly that we can be Cypriot first. We can feel Greek or be Greek if you like, but always put our Cypriot interests first. There will ofcourse be a natural tendency to align Cypriot interests with Greek interests. Just as the Turkish Cypriots, would have a natural tendency to align Cypriots interests with Turkish insterests.

Already I see one major support for the further development of a Cypriot identity, regardless of ethnic background, we both would like to see the differences between Turkey and Greece diminish or evaporate as such a scenario would be most beneficial for Cyprus. Selling Greece to Turkey and vice versa could mean great financial rewards for the Cypriots.

Go in the street and ask 100 G-Cypriots these two questions:

1. Do you know who Evagoras was?
2. Do you feel Greek is a significant part of your identity?

It is logical to assume that the YESs will be 100% in question #2 (varying degrees, but 100% yes's).
What % would get #1 right? 10%?

Feelings rule mate!




http://antifon.blogspot.com



.

pretty much the whole world would doubtless feel ur deluded... so, if feelings rule, u got even more problems.

Zoc...you can believe whatever you want and people here would except your wishes. I suggest you return the favor and stop harassing other contributors of this forum who do not believe the same things you do.

harrassing? this is rhetorical exchange! call urself a greek? u'd have lasted five minutes at the stoa in ancient athens.

Zoc, you use a nice photo of an ancient which I like. But where on earth in your last response did you see ρητορεία? I tend to agree with the harrassment accusation and I only ask that we debate without feeling the need to attack or belittle.

Greece perhaps would not be Greece as early as 1832 (or 1844 if you prefer) had it not been for the inspiration among others of Voltaire who also said "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?"

Thank you Lit.



http://antifon.blogspot.com




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[ZoC]

Zoc, you use a nice photo of an ancient which I like.

thanks it's zeno of citium, the ancient pheonician city.

But where on earth in your last response did you see ρητορεία?

see it? i wrote it. it's u who can't see it.

I tend to agree with the harrassment accusation and I only ask that we debate without feeling the need to attack or belittle.

ur too sensitive. if u were spartan u'd have perished on the hillside.

Greece perhaps would not be Greece as early as 1832 (or 1844 if you prefer) had it not been for the inspiration among others of Voltaire who also said "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?"

Thank you Lit.



http://antifon.blogspot.com


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sure, but wot's the point of posting on a forum if we're just going to agree to differ?

[antifon]

Zoc, you use a nice photo of an ancient which I like.

thanks it's zeno of citium, the ancient pheonician city.

But where on earth in your last response did you see ρητορεία?

see it? i wrote it. it's u who can't see it.

I tend to agree with the harrassment accusation and I only ask that we debate without feeling the need to attack or belittle.

ur too sensitive. if u were spartan u'd have perished on the hillside.

Greece perhaps would not be Greece as early as 1832 (or 1844 if you prefer) had it not been for the inspiration among others of Voltaire who also said "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?"

Thank you Lit.



http://antifon.blogspot.com


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sure, but wot's the point of posting on a forum if we're just going to agree to differ?

Much better, thank you.
I wish I knew how you do the trick with the boxes.

Oh, and by the way, had I been a Spartan I would not have been allowed to live, if my parents are to be trusted about how feeble I was as a baby.


http://antifon.blogspot.com



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[ZoC]

hope that don't mean we got to treat u with kid gloves....

boxes - u got to use the open and close quotes.

[ quote="other person"] wot the other person said[ /quote]

results in

wot the other person said

[Get Real!]

Cyprus is inhabited by a majority of Greeks for over 3000 years.

All your theories are built upon and hang by this fallacious fine thread but the truth of the matter is that there’s not a shred of evidence to back this unfounded assumption!

I challenge you Piratis, to present credible conclusive evidence to back this.