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Postby Klik » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:42 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:What was the question? :?




Why the murderers of innocent TCs were never brought to justice. Do I have to repeat myself? :lol: Straight from TPapa's mouth.


OK, but how can a TC be innocent? :? By definition this is a contradiction. :wink:


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God/Allah/Yahwe give me patience. There are two imbe****'s on the cf and one of them has to respond.


I thought that God and Allah were the same things :shock: :D (according to Muslim friends and...enemies)
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:24 pm

Klik wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:What was the question? :?




Why the murderers of innocent TCs were never brought to justice. Do I have to repeat myself? :lol: Straight from TPapa's mouth.


OK, but how can a TC be innocent? :? By definition this is a contradiction. :wink:


:roll:

God/Allah/Yahwe give me patience. There are two imbe****'s on the cf and one of them has to respond.


I thought that God and Allah were the same things :shock: :D (according to Muslim friends and...enemies)


I am covering all options so both of you can understand. :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:50 pm

Deniz,

The Americans openly financed cadres of right wingers in Cyprus in the early 60s. A family member belonged to one of these groups, EDMA, which stands for United Front of Democracti Fighters, and even though he was penniless at the time he drove an EDMA provided car. In fact in Famagusta the EDMA cars had sequential number plates. You know how we memorised each others's number plates in Cyprus.

So yes, the Americans, in their psychotic anticommunist phase did favor any group which they saw as anticommunist and pro west. It was impossible to talk reason with them.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:57 pm

Nikitas wrote:Deniz,

The Americans openly financed cadres of right wingers in Cyprus in the early 60s. A family member belonged to one of these groups, EDMA, which stands for United Front of Democracti Fighters, and even though he was penniless at the time he drove an EDMA provided car. In fact in Famagusta the EDMA cars had sequential number plates. You know how we memorised each others's number plates in Cyprus.

So yes, the Americans, in their psychotic anticommunist phase did favor any group which they saw as anticommunist and pro west. It was impossible to talk reason with them.


Did the Americans really fear the 'communists' as late as 1974? What paranoia is this? I knew I hated American foreign policies since I was a kid, but now...........flippin 'eck.
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Postby HBarbaros » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:33 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Deniz,

The Americans openly financed cadres of right wingers in Cyprus in the early 60s. A family member belonged to one of these groups, EDMA, which stands for United Front of Democracti Fighters, and even though he was penniless at the time he drove an EDMA provided car. In fact in Famagusta the EDMA cars had sequential number plates. You know how we memorised each others's number plates in Cyprus.

So yes, the Americans, in their psychotic anticommunist phase did favor any group which they saw as anticommunist and pro west. It was impossible to talk reason with them.


Did the Americans really fear the 'communists' as late as 1974? What paranoia is this? I knew I hated American foreign policies since I was a kid, but now...........flippin 'eck.

They were fighting a losing battle in Vietnam at that time and it was not long after where they got their ass kicked, so the fear was real and Makarios did not help them by buying Russian weaponry.
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Postby quattro » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:07 pm

This is a good piece also
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Papadopoulos said that since Christmas the situation had been, to say the
least, 'anomalous'. "We needed to revise the constitution so as to allow a
normal democratic working of the state. We were encouraged in this by
Arthur Clark, which we took to mean that we had British backing. The Turks
were arming to oppose the revision by force
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Postby quattro » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:14 pm

:) the answer is obvious here dear deniz. :)


"Now let's discuss what happened at Liveras and Kolya Chiflik. This was
entirely against our wishes and very damaging to our aims. Properly those
who did it should be arrested and tried for murder. But we're talking about
men who a lot of our people, particularly the right wing, regard as heroes.
Trying to bring them to public trial now could lead to civil war and a much
worse situation than we already have.
"The only alternative we can see is for a secret drumhead court-martial
with powers of capital punishment. That's how it would have been dealt with
during the EOKA struggle. But now all of us here, whether or not we used to
be part of EOKA, are politicians, with hopes to lead the country in the future.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:24 pm

Well, we can see that they were leading both community's.All right wing; Do we have to wait till they all die off? :?
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Postby boulio » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:25 pm

Did the Americans really fear the 'communists' as late as 1974? What paranoia is this? I knew I hated American foreign policies since I was a kid, but now...........flippin 'eck


they were afraid that cyprus would become a new cuba with all the soviet dressing threatening their interest in the middle east.The soviets would establish a naval and air units threatening the suez.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:27 pm

With that threat gone, can't the Yankees put pressure on Turkey?
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