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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:28 pm

halil wrote:Image

I see you got the banner sent over by the GCs... 8)
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:31 pm

At least we have the freedom to protest unlike the YES people in the south.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:...we TCs have the right to move south tomorrow, we don't have you asked yourself why?

Because they can’t afford to? :lol:


I know your economy is closely linked with Greece which has fallen apart but has yours gone down the pan as well? anyone who moves south will work, wont they be paid enough to afford it?

They’ll get unemployment benefit and child allowance, but there’s no way you can get a decent home (nowadays starting from €200k) on that.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...we TCs have the right to move south tomorrow, we don't have you asked yourself why?

Because they can’t afford to? :lol:


I know your economy is closely linked with Greece which has fallen apart but has yours gone down the pan as well? anyone who moves south will work, wont they be paid enough to afford it?

They’ll get unemployment benefit and child allowance, but there’s no way you can get a decent home (nowadays starting from €200k) on that.


How do your young generation or people with an average income afford a life in the south?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...we TCs have the right to move south tomorrow, we don't have you asked yourself why?

Because they can’t afford to? :lol:


I know your economy is closely linked with Greece which has fallen apart but has yours gone down the pan as well? anyone who moves south will work, wont they be paid enough to afford it?

They’ll get unemployment benefit and child allowance, but there’s no way you can get a decent home (nowadays starting from €200k) on that.


How do your young generation or people with an average income afford a life in the south?

Some young couples have one or more parents with land which goes a long way towards building a home, or as collateral to buy elsewhere.

Some have nothing but if they’re both employed the bank’s means test isn’t as strict as other EU countries, so it’s still possible to buy/build with a 30-40 year mortgage.

Some build on top of their parent’s house so it only costs a fraction to erect walls and add doors and windows!

Others… like government employees have an advantage with mortgages and borrowing in general because a bank can easily lock-in the monthly repayment with no risks.
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:48 pm

So, if I interprete correctly the photo with the RoC flag, it is saying to the Turkish army (boot) to get lost (in a rather less polite manner) and that it saved no one.

Is that a fair interpretation and do I see the "Yiasemi" signature on the banner?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...we TCs have the right to move south tomorrow, we don't have you asked yourself why?

Because they can’t afford to? :lol:


I know your economy is closely linked with Greece which has fallen apart but has yours gone down the pan as well? anyone who moves south will work, wont they be paid enough to afford it?

They’ll get unemployment benefit and child allowance, but there’s no way you can get a decent home (nowadays starting from €200k) on that.



How do your young generation or people with an average income afford a life in the south?

Some young couples have one or more parents with land which goes a long way towards building a home, or as collateral to buy elsewhere.

Some have nothing but if they’re both employed the bank’s means test isn’t as strict as other EU countries, so it’s still possible to buy/build with a 30-40 year mortgage.

Some build on top of their parent’s house so it only costs a fraction to erect walls and add doors and windows!

Others… like government employees have an advantage with mortgages and borrowing in general because a bank can easily lock-in the monthly repayment with no risks.


GR.. a question please... would refugees moving back to the Free Areas from the Occupied Areas qualify for the same help as other refugees??
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:23 am

bill cobbett wrote:GR.. a question please... would refugees moving back to the Free Areas from the Occupied Areas qualify for the same help as other refugees??

If you're talking about those who stayed behind in Kormatziti and/or Rizokarpaso, etc then I don't know the legislation involved.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:39 am

Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:GR.. a question please... would refugees moving back to the Free Areas from the Occupied Areas qualify for the same help as other refugees??

If you're talking about those who stayed behind in Kormatziti and/or Rizokarpaso, etc then I don't know the legislation involved.


No really was referring to all those CYs living under the The Unpleasant Turkish Occupation who left their homes in the Free Areas under the Forced Population Exchange.

Ok... a lot will still have their property in the Free Areas, but is there any help for them to re-establish?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:58 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:GR.. a question please... would refugees moving back to the Free Areas from the Occupied Areas qualify for the same help as other refugees??

If you're talking about those who stayed behind in Kormatziti and/or Rizokarpaso, etc then I don't know the legislation involved.


No really was referring to all those CYs living under the The Unpleasant Turkish Occupation who left their homes in the Free Areas under the Forced Population Exchange.

Ok... a lot will still have their property in the Free Areas, but is there any help for them to re-establish?

Oh right...

Have Turkish Cypriots lost land/property on Cyprus?

The RoC did the right thing decades ago when they established the “Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service” thereby securing TC property ownership on Cyprus…

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument

With only a very small number of cases whereby the government took over some TC land/properties (as in the case of one out of two plots of TC land on the edge of the Larnaca airport) under “Obligatory Expropriation Law”...

Obligatory Expropriation Law #15/62
(In Greek: Περί Αναγκαστικής Απαλλοτρίωσης Νόμου Αρ. 15/62)

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument

In which case, reimbursement/compensation is based on (1) the current value of the land/property being expropriated, (2) plus 9% interest from the date of notice of the intent, (3) plus any damages incurred as a result of the expropriation.
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