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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:38 pm

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Bananiot wrote:In 2004 they gave it back to us and we said "no thanks" ...


Didn't your mama warn you about accepting "gifts" from strangers?



How can it become a gift if it already belongs to us Cypriots?


Ask Bananiot. He's the one who seems to think Turkey owns parts of Cyprus and is doing us a kindness to "give them back to us" - no strings attached.


It WAS 'offered' as part of a deal which was turned down. Where did that get the RoC? Some will think that it has been lost for ever. I hope not but my hopes have been dashed many a times.


Only a fool would believe that accepting back a tiny bit of our occupied areas would free the rest of our island. It would have sealed the "partition" and obliged us to relinquish the rest of our country.


That may be your paranoia. One step at a time I would say. It would not be the end of negotiations. It is a matter of trust between the two parties. Take a bit here give a bit there, establish some trust - it can go a long way.

I knew the Annan plan would not be acceptsd by the majority of the islanders; I would not have either if I were in your shoes; but you have to win trust and and establish a stepping stone for further talks.


Oh yeah right. Because Turkey only invaded to then give us our land back, piece by piece, with nothing in it for them!


Further talks would have dealt with that problem.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:39 pm

Morphou would have been returned on top of Famagusta, along with 40 or so villages and some of the most firtile land, the Morphou valley and the area south of the Nicosia Famagusta road. The Turkish army would have left and only a force of 600 soldiers would have stayed behind. We rejected this because we were promised a better, European solution.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:43 pm

Bananiot how do you expect us to unite with the likes of kilk zoc and kikapu, they still believe Cyprus is a Greek island?
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:00 am

There are Kliks and oracles in the Turkish Cypriot community too viewpoint. Together they have brought calamity to Cyprus and partition will be the greatest calamity. The same people who are responsible for our predicament are now calling for partition as the best solution since the solution they envisage is totally out of reach. They know what they are doing. I can only talk, of course, about the Greek Cypriots and what I see I do not like. The rejectionists are turning over all efforts made for solution and their maximalist asks are the prelude to partition. Partition is what they are after. Kikapu cannot see this from where he is and he lends a respectful ear to the bigots who live with the dream of taking revenge on the TC's, but for the moment they are busy pushing forward the idea that the two people cannot live together and thus separation is the best solution.
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Postby B25 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:01 am

Bananiot wrote:Morphou would have been returned on top of Famagusta, along with 40 or so villages and some of the most firtile land, the Morphou valley and the area south of the Nicosia Famagusta road. The Turkish army would have left and only a force of 600 soldiers would have stayed behind. We rejected this because we were promised a better, European solution.


You have once again proven yourself to be a total idiot and aF day dreamer.

If you think for one minute that Turkey would have honoured any part of that agreement you are a complete and utter fool.

Yes they give back Morphou, Famagusta and in return they get the whole of Cyprus.

Ma sovaromilas re, ilithie. :twisted:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:02 am

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Bananiot wrote:Morphou would have been returned on top of Famagusta, along with 40 or so villages and some of the most firtile land, the Morphou valley and the area south of the Nicosia Famagusta road. The Turkish army would have left and only a force of 600 soldiers would have stayed behind. We rejected this because we were promised a better, European solution.


You have once again proven yourself to be a total idiot and aF day dreamer.

If you think for one minute that Turkey would have honoured any part of that agreement you are a complete and utter fool.

Yes they give back Morphou, Famagusta and in return they get the whole of Cyprus.

Ma sovaromilas re, ilithie. :twisted:


Rubbish.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:04 am

Bananiot wrote:There are Kliks and oracles in the Turkish Cypriot community too viewpoint. Together they have brought calamity to Cyprus and partition will be the greatest calamity. The same people who are responsible for our predicament are now calling for partition as the best solution since the solution they envisage is totally out of reach. They know what they are doing. I can only talk, of course, about the Greek Cypriots and what I see I do not like. The rejectionists are turning over all efforts made for solution and their maximalist asks are the prelude to partition. Partition is what they are after. Kikapu cannot see this from where he is and he lends a respectful ear to the bigots who live with the dream of taking revenge on the TC's, but for the moment they are busy pushing forward the idea that the two people cannot live together and thus separation is the best solution.


If only more people were like you Bananiot I would accept a unitary state with no security guarantees but unfortunately this is not the case so we need plenty of structures that will guarantee our say and safety in a BBF style Cyprus.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:07 am

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Bananiot wrote:There are Kliks and oracles in the Turkish Cypriot community too viewpoint. Together they have brought calamity to Cyprus and partition will be the greatest calamity. The same people who are responsible for our predicament are now calling for partition as the best solution since the solution they envisage is totally out of reach. They know what they are doing. I can only talk, of course, about the Greek Cypriots and what I see I do not like. The rejectionists are turning over all efforts made for solution and their maximalist asks are the prelude to partition. Partition is what they are after. Kikapu cannot see this from where he is and he lends a respectful ear to the bigots who live with the dream of taking revenge on the TC's, but for the moment they are busy pushing forward the idea that the two people cannot live together and thus separation is the best solution.


If only more people were like you Bananiot I would accept a unitary state with no security guarantees but unfortunately this is not the case so we need plenty of structures that will guarantee our say and safety in a BBF style Cyprus.


Viewpoint wrote:This is exactly why there will and should never be a solution.


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=30
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:09 am

So, according to this B24 fool, the reason he did not vote for solution in 2004 is because Turkey would have not honoured the agreement. What a gem!
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:10 am

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Bananiot wrote:There are Kliks and oracles in the Turkish Cypriot community too viewpoint. Together they have brought calamity to Cyprus and partition will be the greatest calamity. The same people who are responsible for our predicament are now calling for partition as the best solution since the solution they envisage is totally out of reach. They know what they are doing. I can only talk, of course, about the Greek Cypriots and what I see I do not like. The rejectionists are turning over all efforts made for solution and their maximalist asks are the prelude to partition. Partition is what they are after. Kikapu cannot see this from where he is and he lends a respectful ear to the bigots who live with the dream of taking revenge on the TC's, but for the moment they are busy pushing forward the idea that the two people cannot live together and thus separation is the best solution.


If only more people were like you Bananiot I would accept a unitary state with no security guarantees but unfortunately this is not the case so we need plenty of structures that will guarantee our say and safety in a BBF style Cyprus.


Viewpoint wrote:This is exactly why there will and should never be a solution.


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=30


Exactly those structure will never be accepted (the chasm) by GCs so there will never be a solution and with people like klik zoc piratis and yourself there should never.
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