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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:40 pm

Hermes wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: Laws are made to be broken and the same is everywhere.


The Turkish mindset neatly summed up. Meanwhile in the civilized world the rule of law separates us from the barbarians.


If no law is ever broken in the RoC, then the RoC is Utopia indeed. Turkish mindset? I doubt it. I am not brainwashed and I do not advocate law braking. It just happens.

Let me ask you this. Do you have a police force or a prison? I rest my case.
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Postby Hermes » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:54 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Hermes wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: Laws are made to be broken and the same is everywhere.


The Turkish mindset neatly summed up. Meanwhile in the civilized world the rule of law separates us from the barbarians.


If no law is ever broken in the RoC, then the RoC is Utopia indeed. Turkish mindset? I doubt it. I am not brainwashed and I do not advocate law braking. It just happens.

Let me ask you this. Do you have a police force or a prison? I rest my case.


Turkey likes to choose the laws which suit its totalitarian agenda. This is self-evident in the case of Cyprus. The fact that people occasionally break traffic laws is irrelevant. Unless it is to suggest that Turkey treats the rule of international law with the same contempt as an irresponsible driver does the traffic law. But genocide, ethnic cleansing and military occupation are a little more serious in my eyes than failing to stop at a traffic light.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:39 pm

I take your point, but you show me one saint and I'll show you a thousand bastards. 8)
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Postby CBBB » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:15 am

Hermes wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Hermes wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: Laws are made to be broken and the same is everywhere.


The Turkish mindset neatly summed up. Meanwhile in the civilized world the rule of law separates us from the barbarians.


If no law is ever broken in the RoC, then the RoC is Utopia indeed. Turkish mindset? I doubt it. I am not brainwashed and I do not advocate law braking. It just happens.

Let me ask you this. Do you have a police force or a prison? I rest my case.


Turkey likes to choose the laws which suit its totalitarian agenda. This is self-evident in the case of Cyprus. The fact that people occasionally break traffic laws is irrelevant. Unless it is to suggest that Turkey treats the rule of international law with the same contempt as an irresponsible driver does the traffic law. But genocide, ethnic cleansing and military occupation are a little more serious in my eyes than failing to stop at a traffic light.


How many points on your licence do you get for those?
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Postby Liberty » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:44 am

Turkey's contest between Islam (centuries old) and the secular Military (decades old), might soon be settled in favour of a return to their 'glorious' Islamic past:

What Turkey's generals fail to understand is that when Turkey held the banner of Islam, it was the leader of the Muslim world; by adopting secularism and imitating the West, it has become the sick man of Europe, facing an uncertain future. But the fact that the vast majority of Turkish women continue to wear hijab reflects a commitment to Islam among ordinary Turks that decades of aggressive secularism have failed to obliterate. This commitment holds out the hope that Istanbul might yet again emerge as a centre of Islamic civilization and power, and a source of inspiration for all Muslims, insha'Allah.


But what 'glorious' Islamic past is that?
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