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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:39 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:If there is a solution who is going to step up and guarantee that Turkey fulfills its obligations, what if the military doesnt want to withdraw from its positions? After the invasion the officers that took part in the invasion were granted Gc properties and some of them have hotels built on them today illegally. Are these same officers going to just give them up?


We have to be strong mate and even though we have our various and many differences, we have to show some unity, so would like to see the Good People Of The Free Areas throw out anything that allows a single TA soldier to stay.... NO Turkish Army... Every single one of the feckers has to go cos as you say these buggers were rewarded for their Heinous War Crimes with the property of others.... and they will cause trouble if they stay.

Zero TA from Day Zero.
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Postby Gasman » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:14 pm

If there is a solution who is going to step up and guarantee that Turkey fulfills its obligations, what if the military doesnt want to withdraw from its positions? After the invasion the officers that took part in the invasion were granted Gc properties and some of them have hotels built on them today illegally. Are these same officers going to just give them up?


Same could be said of some GCs who have done very well since '74. Have lucrative businesses operating in former TC property. Occupying several prime seafront (ex) TC property.

Do you seriously think they'd want to return to what they had pre 1974?

Why do you think they can NEVER find a suitable solution?
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Postby insan » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:17 pm

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-01-24

The real tension behind the scene has to do with the possibility that Mossad is working with Turkish military to conduct a coup against Edrogan. Given this possibility, Erdogan and his party have gone on offense by leaking the Sledgehammer plan and putting the military on defense. I think Erdogan, elected by a democratic majority, will succeed, as he should. Best luck to the brave and forthright Erdogan.


So beware of your new "allies"! :wink:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... in-turkey/

Meanwhile, a separate report by Turkish daily Yeni Safak has claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered some bags in Guney's Istanbul house that include the Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.

According to an earlier report by Aksamanother Turkish daily, Mossad has been involved in several ambiguous events in Turkey.

The report claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered documents that disclose information concerning suspicious investment and economic activities by certain Jewish businessmen in Turkey.

The Jewish businessmen are alleged to have had significant relations with individuals, political groups and cultural organizations, which investigations show are affiliated to the Ergenekon group.

Turkish security forces have detained many members of the Ergenekon group, including retired army generals, politicians, popular lawyers and famous journalists. The individuals currently face trail on charges of plotting to overthrow Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8a_1232064708

Sorry about shattering your wet dreams about Turkish army... plz don't confuse TA with some mossad agents infiltrated into some special branches of Turkish security forces... :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:37 pm

insan wrote:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=we-will-not-allow-dirty-plans-says-pm-2010-01-24

The real tension behind the scene has to do with the possibility that Mossad is working with Turkish military to conduct a coup against Edrogan. Given this possibility, Erdogan and his party have gone on offense by leaking the Sledgehammer plan and putting the military on defense. I think Erdogan, elected by a democratic majority, will succeed, as he should. Best luck to the brave and forthright Erdogan.


So beware of your new "allies"! :wink:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... in-turkey/

Meanwhile, a separate report by Turkish daily Yeni Safak has claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered some bags in Guney's Istanbul house that include the Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.

According to an earlier report by Aksamanother Turkish daily, Mossad has been involved in several ambiguous events in Turkey.

The report claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered documents that disclose information concerning suspicious investment and economic activities by certain Jewish businessmen in Turkey.

The Jewish businessmen are alleged to have had significant relations with individuals, political groups and cultural organizations, which investigations show are affiliated to the Ergenekon group.

Turkish security forces have detained many members of the Ergenekon group, including retired army generals, politicians, popular lawyers and famous journalists. The individuals currently face trail on charges of plotting to overthrow Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8a_1232064708

Sorry about shattering your wet dreams about Turkish army... plz don't confuse TA with some mossad agents infiltrated into some special branches of Turkish security forces... :wink:


Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.


What the hell does that mean.! :lol:

I didn't realize Mossad agents carry the Israeli flag with them like the cavalry did, before they liquidate their targets with what ever slogans they use.! :lol:
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Postby insan » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=we-will-not-allow-dirty-plans-says-pm-2010-01-24

The real tension behind the scene has to do with the possibility that Mossad is working with Turkish military to conduct a coup against Edrogan. Given this possibility, Erdogan and his party have gone on offense by leaking the Sledgehammer plan and putting the military on defense. I think Erdogan, elected by a democratic majority, will succeed, as he should. Best luck to the brave and forthright Erdogan.


So beware of your new "allies"! :wink:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... in-turkey/

Meanwhile, a separate report by Turkish daily Yeni Safak has claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered some bags in Guney's Istanbul house that include the Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.

According to an earlier report by Aksamanother Turkish daily, Mossad has been involved in several ambiguous events in Turkey.

The report claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered documents that disclose information concerning suspicious investment and economic activities by certain Jewish businessmen in Turkey.

The Jewish businessmen are alleged to have had significant relations with individuals, political groups and cultural organizations, which investigations show are affiliated to the Ergenekon group.

Turkish security forces have detained many members of the Ergenekon group, including retired army generals, politicians, popular lawyers and famous journalists. The individuals currently face trail on charges of plotting to overthrow Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8a_1232064708

Sorry about shattering your wet dreams about Turkish army... plz don't confuse TA with some mossad agents infiltrated into some special branches of Turkish security forces... :wink:


Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.


What the hell does that mean.! :lol:

I didn't realize Mossad agents carry the Israeli flag with them like the cavalry did, before they liquidate their targets with what ever slogans they use.! :lol:


Yeah.. is it because u know nothing about false flag operations? :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:49 pm

insan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=we-will-not-allow-dirty-plans-says-pm-2010-01-24

The real tension behind the scene has to do with the possibility that Mossad is working with Turkish military to conduct a coup against Edrogan. Given this possibility, Erdogan and his party have gone on offense by leaking the Sledgehammer plan and putting the military on defense. I think Erdogan, elected by a democratic majority, will succeed, as he should. Best luck to the brave and forthright Erdogan.


So beware of your new "allies"! :wink:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... in-turkey/

Meanwhile, a separate report by Turkish daily Yeni Safak has claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered some bags in Guney's Istanbul house that include the Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.

According to an earlier report by Aksamanother Turkish daily, Mossad has been involved in several ambiguous events in Turkey.

The report claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered documents that disclose information concerning suspicious investment and economic activities by certain Jewish businessmen in Turkey.

The Jewish businessmen are alleged to have had significant relations with individuals, political groups and cultural organizations, which investigations show are affiliated to the Ergenekon group.

Turkish security forces have detained many members of the Ergenekon group, including retired army generals, politicians, popular lawyers and famous journalists. The individuals currently face trail on charges of plotting to overthrow Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8a_1232064708

Sorry about shattering your wet dreams about Turkish army... plz don't confuse TA with some mossad agents infiltrated into some special branches of Turkish security forces... :wink:


Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.


What the hell does that mean.! :lol:

I didn't realize Mossad agents carry the Israeli flag with them like the cavalry did, before they liquidate their targets with what ever slogans they use.! :lol:


Yeah.. is it because u know nothing about false flag operations? :lol:


I know about the false Flag Operations, but here it states that Mossad were in with the Turkish Military, so what are you saying, that the Israelis will do something and then leave the Israeli Flag behind so others can to point the finger to themselves. :? :? :?

Surely Mossad agents will carry the Palestinian flag to implicate the Palestinians for their dirty work......NO.?
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Postby insan » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
insan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=we-will-not-allow-dirty-plans-says-pm-2010-01-24

The real tension behind the scene has to do with the possibility that Mossad is working with Turkish military to conduct a coup against Edrogan. Given this possibility, Erdogan and his party have gone on offense by leaking the Sledgehammer plan and putting the military on defense. I think Erdogan, elected by a democratic majority, will succeed, as he should. Best luck to the brave and forthright Erdogan.


So beware of your new "allies"! :wink:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... in-turkey/

Meanwhile, a separate report by Turkish daily Yeni Safak has claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered some bags in Guney's Istanbul house that include the Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.

According to an earlier report by Aksamanother Turkish daily, Mossad has been involved in several ambiguous events in Turkey.

The report claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered documents that disclose information concerning suspicious investment and economic activities by certain Jewish businessmen in Turkey.

The Jewish businessmen are alleged to have had significant relations with individuals, political groups and cultural organizations, which investigations show are affiliated to the Ergenekon group.

Turkish security forces have detained many members of the Ergenekon group, including retired army generals, politicians, popular lawyers and famous journalists. The individuals currently face trail on charges of plotting to overthrow Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8a_1232064708

Sorry about shattering your wet dreams about Turkish army... plz don't confuse TA with some mossad agents infiltrated into some special branches of Turkish security forces... :wink:


Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.


What the hell does that mean.! :lol:

I didn't realize Mossad agents carry the Israeli flag with them like the cavalry did, before they liquidate their targets with what ever slogans they use.! :lol:


Yeah.. is it because u know nothing about false flag operations? :lol:


I know about the false Flag Operations, but here it states that Mossad were in with the Turkish Military, so what are you saying, that the Israelis will do something and then leave the Israeli Flag behind so others can to point the finger to themselves. :? :? :?

Surely Mossad agents will carry the Palestinian flag to implicate the Palestinians for their dirty work......NO.?


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/fe ... d-1.259481

The issue is too complicated, Kikapu... he and they don't serve the interests of Turkey or israel... but for the masters of the new world order... if u want proof, plz do ur own research... start with Scottish Rite, go back to Hazar Turks... even to Essau and Jacob... till u figure out the Edomites...
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:09 pm

Gasman wrote:
If there is a solution who is going to step up and guarantee that Turkey fulfills its obligations, what if the military doesnt want to withdraw from its positions? After the invasion the officers that took part in the invasion were granted Gc properties and some of them have hotels built on them today illegally. Are these same officers going to just give them up?


Same could be said of some GCs who have done very well since '74. Have lucrative businesses operating in former TC property. Occupying several prime seafront (ex) TC property.

Do you seriously think they'd want to return to what they had pre 1974?

Why do you think they can NEVER find a suitable solution?


Here's a challenge for you, oldy Gasbag!

Why don't you give us some exact figures to all these GCs who have benefited from the occupation ...

Where are these "lucrative businesses" operating in former TC properties?

Why don't you PUT UP or SHUT UP!
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:27 pm

insan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
insan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
insan wrote:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=we-will-not-allow-dirty-plans-says-pm-2010-01-24

The real tension behind the scene has to do with the possibility that Mossad is working with Turkish military to conduct a coup against Edrogan. Given this possibility, Erdogan and his party have gone on offense by leaking the Sledgehammer plan and putting the military on defense. I think Erdogan, elected by a democratic majority, will succeed, as he should. Best luck to the brave and forthright Erdogan.


So beware of your new "allies"! :wink:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.c ... in-turkey/

Meanwhile, a separate report by Turkish daily Yeni Safak has claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered some bags in Guney's Istanbul house that include the Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.

According to an earlier report by Aksamanother Turkish daily, Mossad has been involved in several ambiguous events in Turkey.

The report claimed that Turkish security forces have discovered documents that disclose information concerning suspicious investment and economic activities by certain Jewish businessmen in Turkey.

The Jewish businessmen are alleged to have had significant relations with individuals, political groups and cultural organizations, which investigations show are affiliated to the Ergenekon group.

Turkish security forces have detained many members of the Ergenekon group, including retired army generals, politicians, popular lawyers and famous journalists. The individuals currently face trail on charges of plotting to overthrow Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8a_1232064708

Sorry about shattering your wet dreams about Turkish army... plz don't confuse TA with some mossad agents infiltrated into some special branches of Turkish security forces... :wink:


Israeli flag and Mossad's slogan.


What the hell does that mean.! :lol:

I didn't realize Mossad agents carry the Israeli flag with them like the cavalry did, before they liquidate their targets with what ever slogans they use.! :lol:


Yeah.. is it because u know nothing about false flag operations? :lol:


I know about the false Flag Operations, but here it states that Mossad were in with the Turkish Military, so what are you saying, that the Israelis will do something and then leave the Israeli Flag behind so others can to point the finger to themselves. :? :? :?

Surely Mossad agents will carry the Palestinian flag to implicate the Palestinians for their dirty work......NO.?


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/fe ... d-1.259481

The issue is too complicated, Kikapu... he and they don't serve the interests of Turkey or israel... but for the masters of the new world order... if u want proof, plz do ur own research... start with Scottish Rite, go back to Hazar Turks... even to Essau and Jacob... till u figure out the Edomites...


Thanks, Insan, but I really couldn't be bothered with it.! :P
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:42 pm

Gasman wrote:Same could be said of some GCs who have done very well since '74. Have lucrative businesses operating in former TC property. Occupying several prime seafront (ex) TC property.

Do you seriously think they'd want to return to what they had pre 1974?

Why do you think they can NEVER find a suitable solution?

You’re so full of SHIT! :roll:

The government doesn’t allow trading disputed properties…

The 1991 Turkish Cypriot Properties Law

http://www.internal-displacement.org/id ... aw%20(2006)-English.doc

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument

http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/moi/citizensch ... enDocument

And there's no way of acquiring them other than squat if you're up to living without electricity and water!
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