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Using the 1:4.5 ratio to calculate the TC Diaspora:

Combining data from… (Library of Congress)

(1) Table 5 (Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973)
(2) Table 7(Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

…yields the following population ratios:

Year..CY-Pop….....TCs.....Remainder....Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------
1881....186,200.....45,458....140,742.....1:4.09
1911....274,100.....56,428....217,672.....1:4.85
1921....310,700.....61,339....249,361.....1:5.06
1931....348,000.....64,245....283,755.....1:5.41
1946....450,100.....80,548....369,552.....1:5.58
1960....573,600....104,333....469,267....1:5.49

So as can be seen, for decades the 1:4.5 or even 1:5.5 community ratio has been steady in Cyprus so we can safely use it to calculate everything else pertaining to populations, given that the growth rates of the communities have been the same with nothing out of the ordinary happening.

Continuing…

We know that the GC Diaspora is 492,000 from…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... enDocument

Therefore 492,000 / 4.5 = 109,333

It is therefore safe to assume that the TC Diaspora should be around 110,000.

End of story!

[runaway]

I say bollocks !

You call yourself a Cypriot .

Have you heard of his version of "cyprus"? A union where south shitriots being Brits, TCs Pakis in a united cy (Britain) The guy is a moron.

[zan]

Using the 1:4.5 ratio to calculate the TC Diaspora:

Combining data from… (Library of Congress)

(1) Table 5 (Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973)
(2) Table 7(Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

…yields the following population ratios:

Year..CY-Pop….....TCs.....Remainder....Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------
1881....186,200.....45,458....140,742.....1:4.09
1911....274,100.....56,428....217,672.....1:4.85
1921....310,700.....61,339....249,361.....1:5.06
1931....348,000.....64,245....283,755.....1:5.41
1946....450,100.....80,548....369,552.....1:5.58
1960....573,600....104,333....469,267....1:5.49

So as can be seen, for decades the 1:4.5 or even 1:5.5 community ratio has been steady in Cyprus so we can safely use it to calculate everything else pertaining to populations, given that the growth rates of the communities have been the same with nothing out of the ordinary happening.

Continuing…

We know that the GC Diaspora is 492,000 from…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... enDocument

Therefore 492,000 / 4.5 = 109,333

It is therefore safe to assume that the TC Diaspora should be around 110,000.

End of story!

As I said.....Guessing

[Get Real!]

As I said.....Guessing

No, that’s using standard statistical approximations. Guessing is what MrH and your self do.

[zan]

As I said.....Guessing

No, that’s using standard statistical approximations. Guessing is what MrH and your self do.

Thank you! At last!! Maybe Milti will get it now

By he way; did you include all those that left the island all those decades??? You know I am no good at math!!

[miltiades]

Using the 1:4.5 ratio to calculate the TC Diaspora:

Combining data from… (Library of Congress)

(1) Table 5 (Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973)
(2) Table 7(Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

…yields the following population ratios:

Year..CY-Pop….....TCs.....Remainder....Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------
1881....186,200.....45,458....140,742.....1:4.09
1911....274,100.....56,428....217,672.....1:4.85
1921....310,700.....61,339....249,361.....1:5.06
1931....348,000.....64,245....283,755.....1:5.41
1946....450,100.....80,548....369,552.....1:5.58
1960....573,600....104,333....469,267....1:5.49

So as can be seen, for decades the 1:4.5 or even 1:5.5 community ratio has been steady in Cyprus so we can safely use it to calculate everything else pertaining to populations, given that the growth rates of the communities have been the same with nothing out of the ordinary happening.

Continuing…

We know that the GC Diaspora is 492,000 from…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... enDocument

Therefore 492,000 / 4.5 = 109,333

It is therefore safe to assume that the TC Diaspora should be around 110,000.

End of story!

Using similar calculations here are my findings , as you will see I put the number of T/Cs in the Diaspora at 111,000, as I stated slightly exaggerated , so your calculations of 110,000 are spot on.

"Mr Ramadan , just to help you out let me tell you what the total number of T/Cs both in Cyprus and the Diaspora is
186,843 !!
Based on the World growth rate of 1.2% from 1960 to 2010 and taking Cyprus’s overall population growth of 1% for the same period , I have increased the growth rate of T/Cs to 1.5% , this figure represents 25% more than the World GR and 50% more than the Cyprus GR.
Taking this rather purposely exaggerated figure and doing your calculations you will arrive at the figure I gave above. By all intents and purposes I put the total number in Cyprus at 75,000 and the remainder 111,000 in the Diaspora.
Will you amend your records please or challenge my figures !

[zan]

Using the 1:4.5 ratio to calculate the TC Diaspora:

Combining data from… (Library of Congress)

(1) Table 5 (Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973)
(2) Table 7(Turkish Cypriot Population, Selected Dates, Sixteenth Century to 1988)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

…yields the following population ratios:

Year..CY-Pop….....TCs.....Remainder....Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------
1881....186,200.....45,458....140,742.....1:4.09
1911....274,100.....56,428....217,672.....1:4.85
1921....310,700.....61,339....249,361.....1:5.06
1931....348,000.....64,245....283,755.....1:5.41
1946....450,100.....80,548....369,552.....1:5.58
1960....573,600....104,333....469,267....1:5.49

So as can be seen, for decades the 1:4.5 or even 1:5.5 community ratio has been steady in Cyprus so we can safely use it to calculate everything else pertaining to populations, given that the growth rates of the communities have been the same with nothing out of the ordinary happening.

Continuing…

We know that the GC Diaspora is 492,000 from…

http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/A ... enDocument

Therefore 492,000 / 4.5 = 109,333

It is therefore safe to assume that the TC Diaspora should be around 110,000.

End of story!

Using similar calculations here are my findings , as you will see I put the number of T/Cs in the Diaspora at 111,000, as I stated slightly exaggerated , so your calculations of 110,000 are spot on.

"Mr Ramadan , just to help you out let me tell you what the total number of T/Cs both in Cyprus and the Diaspora is
186,843 !!
Based on the World growth rate of 1.2% from 1960 to 2010 and taking Cyprus’s overall population growth of 1% for the same period , I have increased the growth rate of T/Cs to 1.5% , this figure represents 25% more than the World GR and 50% more than the Cyprus GR.
Taking this rather purposely exaggerated figure and doing your calculations you will arrive at the figure I gave above. By all intents and purposes I put the total number in Cyprus at 75,000 and the remainder 111,000 in the Diaspora.
Will you amend your records please or challenge my figures !

HELP!!!! I'm going blind!!!!!!!!!!

[Kikapu]

KIKAPU you Dumb-Arse,

Lets just say few more thousands abroad at that time. How do you get to 500,000 from little over 100,000 in 50 years.?? You are talking about averaging 10% population growth produced by the initial 100,000+ TCs.!

why are you ONLY basing your figures on the DIASPORA over the last 50 YEARS ONLY. The NGOs abroad have been functioning since 1878! My Grandfather moved to London, before returning to Cyprus for a brief moment, in 1938! Our NGOs DID NOT START in 1960 or 1963.....Stop trying to explain to us what a brain-washed Greek Cypriot would say as you are looking a bit silly mate.

Find out HOW FAR back the TC Diaspora NGO Groups have been functioning before firing a stupid figure like 100'000 Turkish Cypriots without understanding when EXACTLY the Turkish Cypriots were originally pushed from Cyprus - since 1878 - and what the Turkish Cyprus figure was prior to 1878.

You've been seriously brainwashed by the Greek Cypriots and I'm afraid your Daughther will won day make you realise your so-called Cypriotness.

I didn't know you were also counting the dead TCs from 1571.!

OK, now your 500,000 figure is starting to make sense.!

[zan]

KIKAPU you Dumb-Arse,

Lets just say few more thousands abroad at that time. How do you get to 500,000 from little over 100,000 in 50 years.?? You are talking about averaging 10% population growth produced by the initial 100,000+ TCs.!

why are you ONLY basing your figures on the DIASPORA over the last 50 YEARS ONLY. The NGOs abroad have been functioning since 1878! My Grandfather moved to London, before returning to Cyprus for a brief moment, in 1938! Our NGOs DID NOT START in 1960 or 1963.....Stop trying to explain to us what a brain-washed Greek Cypriot would say as you are looking a bit silly mate.

Find out HOW FAR back the TC Diaspora NGO Groups have been functioning before firing a stupid figure like 100'000 Turkish Cypriots without understanding when EXACTLY the Turkish Cypriots were originally pushed from Cyprus - since 1878 - and what the Turkish Cyprus figure was prior to 1878.

You've been seriously brainwashed by the Greek Cypriots and I'm afraid your Daughther will won day make you realise your so-called Cypriotness.

I didn't know you were also counting the dead TCs from 1571.!

OK, now your 500,000 figure is starting to make sense.!

Only as good as you backing Milti back then and claiming new borns as refugees to make up the numbers from Greek propaganda!!

[Viewpoint]

Hello zan how have you been as you can see the GCs never change.