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Postby B25 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:36 am

The last 'opportunity' as you put it, was an oppotunity for you and only you. the GCs were right to reject it outright. it was a cleverly disguise partition plan and you voted for obviously. thanks to TPap we managed to escape your trap.
next idiot please.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:40 am

B25 wrote:The last 'opportunity' as you put it, was an oppotunity for you and only you. the GCs were right to reject it outright. it was a cleverly disguise partition plan and you voted for obviously. thanks to TPap we managed to escape your trap.
next idiot please.


Did you read it?

The army leaving

Maraş being handed back

50,000 settlers remain

8% of land being handed back

United Cyprus

Airspace over Turkey

4 billion usd revenue in shipping

sounds like you lost out big time, looks like you are that idiot.
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Postby Perpendicular » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:42 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Could you clarify what this "get out of jail free card" actually is? and without Turkeys desire to enter the EU what can they do to force a solution against the TCs will?


Right now, Turkey are in a position in which they can reach a peaceful deal over Cyprus so that what was done in 1974, and since then, can be forgotten. If Turkey does not jump at this chance, there will eventually be a more hostile changing of land, even as a strong war between politicians.

The TC's are not the problem, Turkey are. Had Turkey never sent Turkish settlers to Cyprus, an agreement over the rights the Turkish Cypriot minority has would have been agreed, that I am 100% sure on.


Wheres the deal? we have been unable to agree a solution for over 50 years, have you been on this planet? need I remind you that the GCs rejected the last opportunity. If you are offering an "agreement" where the TCs have minority rights in a GC state then it would be rejected.


The last opportunity was ridiculously Turkish biased and offered Greeks no protection whatsoever.


Why didnt the GC leader ask for it? what would be your "agreement" with TCs?

You simply cannot expect Greeks to bend over and hand Cyprus to Turkey just like that. It was ridiculously biased and gave the nation of Turkey way too much control in Cypriot affairs.

A good starting point for an agreement is telling Turkey to mind their own business and not to interfere with the affairs of Greek & Turkish Cypriots.
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Postby Perpendicular » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:43 am

Viewpoint, the Annan plan allowed Turkey to keep troops on the island...
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Postby Klik » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:Did you read it?


yes

Viewpoint wrote:The army leaving


yes... the replacement would have cause a new coup within the next 5 years though.

Viewpoint wrote:Maraş being handed back


Don't use your filthy disgusting language when you are talking about a historical Cypriot site :roll:

Viewpoint wrote:50,000 settlers remain


that's a....relief :roll:

Viewpoint wrote:8% of land being handed back


8%? I could get a better deal from Waitrose :)

Viewpoint wrote:United Cyprus


United? What does united mean? Annan plan had nothing about 'united', just some stuff about Keryneia never being Cypriot again and that Turks would rule 30% of the country... How's that uniting? And unite what?

Viewpoint wrote:Airspace over Turkey


Hahahahaha.. Yes we need to sell out 30% of our country just to fly our airplanes over Turkey, which is only helpful for going to former USSR countries, Bulgaria and Romania, which is not actually an ideal destination. I'd rather keep my country. And I'd rather keep my ass on my country as well instead of flying over Turkey to Eastern Europe. There's also the current way of flying to those destinations and I don't think people feel bad about that. Or we can take other airlines instead of Cyprus Airways :lol:

Viewpoint wrote:4 billion usd revenue in shipping


Yes, you forgot the debt that would come with that in the next years :lol:

Viewpoint wrote:sounds like you lost out big time, looks like you are that idiot.


Talking to yourself again?
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Postby B25 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:14 am

Nice one Klik, you beat me to it. we get 8% and 50k settlers in return for 30% of our country. Just so that Turkey can have 100% of our voice and sovereignty. What bollocks are you talking VP.

If it came to it, we would be better of with 67%, an international voice, masters of our own destiny and all the gas and oil revenues until we can kick your sorry arses outta here.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:22 pm

Perpendicular wrote:Viewpoint, the Annan plan allowed Turkey to keep troops on the island...


do you know exactly how many?
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Perpendicular wrote:Viewpoint, the Annan plan allowed Turkey to keep troops on the island...


do you know exactly how many?


As many as Turkey wanted, as well as, as many settlers (Turks) becoming Cypriots, because within a short time of the AP passing, Turkey would have controlled (ruled) Cyprus in anyway she wanted. Explains why you still crave for the long Dead & Buried Annan Plan after 7 years.!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:03 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Perpendicular wrote:Viewpoint, the Annan plan allowed Turkey to keep troops on the island...


do you know exactly how many?


As many as Turkey wanted, as well as, as many settlers (Turks) becoming Cypriots, because within a short time of the AP passing, Turkey would have controlled (ruled) Cyprus in anyway she wanted. Explains why you still crave for the long Dead & Buried Annan Plan after 7 years.!


This is where your manipulation of the real facts to influence other dumb people comes into play, exactly how many soldiers were allowed to stay according to the AP? How many settlers were actually stated in the AP? The rest of what you have to say is just assumption and predictions which again reveals to us exactly where you stand firmly on the the GC propaganda bench. As for the AP being dead and buried thats were you are yet again wrong it will always be used as the foundation for any future talks or subsequent agreements.

Can you explain to us exactly how Turkey would have ruled the whole island if the AP would have been adopted? and would the TCs and GCs together allowed this?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:11 pm

Klik wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Did you read it?


yes

Viewpoint wrote:The army leaving


yes... the replacement would have cause a new coup within the next 5 years though.

Viewpoint wrote:Maraş being handed back


Don't use your filthy disgusting language when you are talking about a historical Cypriot site :roll:

Viewpoint wrote:50,000 settlers remain


that's a....relief :roll:

Viewpoint wrote:8% of land being handed back


8%? I could get a better deal from Waitrose :)

Viewpoint wrote:United Cyprus


United? What does united mean? Annan plan had nothing about 'united', just some stuff about Keryneia never being Cypriot again and that Turks would rule 30% of the country... How's that uniting? And unite what?

Viewpoint wrote:Airspace over Turkey


Hahahahaha.. Yes we need to sell out 30% of our country just to fly our airplanes over Turkey, which is only helpful for going to former USSR countries, Bulgaria and Romania, which is not actually an ideal destination. I'd rather keep my country. And I'd rather keep my ass on my country as well instead of flying over Turkey to Eastern Europe. There's also the current way of flying to those destinations and I don't think people feel bad about that. Or we can take other airlines instead of Cyprus Airways :lol:

Viewpoint wrote:4 billion usd revenue in shipping


Yes, you forgot the debt that would come with that in the next years :lol:

Viewpoint wrote:sounds like you lost out big time, looks like you are that idiot.


Talking to yourself again?


The above responses shows your low level of intelligence just a little above the moronic oracle, so I wont waste my time responding to your posts.
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