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Lit in 100 200 years time people wont even remember we were once united and recognition will follow we are here for the long haul. What do you think will happen to your chances of solving Cyprus if Turkey is turned away by the EU? do you think they will be any more interested a solution? No they will tell you to get stuffed as your EU leverage goes up in smoke.

If anything, a breakdown in relations between Turkey and the EU is best for Cyprus. This will mean that the EU can just back the Republic of Cyprus, instead of having to appear politically correct and listen to unfounded Turkish concerns.

Welcome to the forum Perpendicular, and I second that statement. I would also add, the sooner the better.

Be careful what you wish for If that happens then the border stays and we LOOK TO THE EAST. We get on with our lives and prosper without the need for talks and you whine your heads off living in the past.

Wake up you fool, look whats taking place other there. You are obviously not happy, imagine, with even less hope you might just disappear after all. You are the ones who need to becareful what you wish for. The RoC is offering you a get out of jail chance with some bail conditions, but seems you just want to get out and run the show. Such nerve.

I know. THe students over here are sooooo unhappy they are lobbying to hand over England to Whales.

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Lit in 100 200 years time people wont even remember we were once united and recognition will follow we are here for the long haul. What do you think will happen to your chances of solving Cyprus if Turkey is turned away by the EU? do you think they will be any more interested a solution? No they will tell you to get stuffed as your EU leverage goes up in smoke.

If anything, a breakdown in relations between Turkey and the EU is best for Cyprus. This will mean that the EU can just back the Republic of Cyprus, instead of having to appear politically correct and listen to unfounded Turkish concerns.

Welcome to the forum Perpendicular, and I second that statement. I would also add, the sooner the better.

Be careful what you wish for If that happens then the border stays and we LOOK TO THE EAST. We get on with our lives and prosper without the need for talks and you whine your heads off living in the past.

The only reason you have the power you have over Greeks is because the EU has to take into consideration Turkey as a future member of the European Union. If you lose that position, you lose your power and any influence with the world leaders. You'd be wise to accept the "get out of jail free" card you've been awarded by the EU, instead of being selfish and demanding more, which will only work against you.

Plus, the East is an unstable mess full of violence and betrayal. I guess that symbolises Turkish desperation for acceptance.

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Lit in 100 200 years time people wont even remember we were once united and recognition will follow we are here for the long haul. What do you think will happen to your chances of solving Cyprus if Turkey is turned away by the EU? do you think they will be any more interested a solution? No they will tell you to get stuffed as your EU leverage goes up in smoke.

If anything, a breakdown in relations between Turkey and the EU is best for Cyprus. This will mean that the EU can just back the Republic of Cyprus, instead of having to appear politically correct and listen to unfounded Turkish concerns.

Welcome to the forum Perpendicular, and I second that statement. I would also add, the sooner the better.

Be careful what you wish for If that happens then the border stays and we LOOK TO THE EAST. We get on with our lives and prosper without the need for talks and you whine your heads off living in the past.

The only reason you have the power you have over Greeks is because the EU has to take into consideration Turkey as a future member of the European Union. If you lose that position, you lose your power and any influence with the world leaders. You'd be wise to accept the "get out of jail free" card you've been awarded by the EU, instead of being selfish and demanding more, which will only work against you.

Plus, the East is an unstable mess full of violence and betrayal. I guess that symbolises Turkish desperation for acceptance.

What will happen to the GCs their EU leverage with disappear overnight, then where will they be?

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That's not gonna happen, so talk about reality

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Lit in 100 200 years time people wont even remember we were once united and recognition will follow we are here for the long haul. What do you think will happen to your chances of solving Cyprus if Turkey is turned away by the EU? do you think they will be any more interested a solution? No they will tell you to get stuffed as your EU leverage goes up in smoke.

If anything, a breakdown in relations between Turkey and the EU is best for Cyprus. This will mean that the EU can just back the Republic of Cyprus, instead of having to appear politically correct and listen to unfounded Turkish concerns.

Welcome to the forum Perpendicular, and I second that statement. I would also add, the sooner the better.

Be careful what you wish for If that happens then the border stays and we LOOK TO THE EAST. We get on with our lives and prosper without the need for talks and you whine your heads off living in the past.

The only reason you have the power you have over Greeks is because the EU has to take into consideration Turkey as a future member of the European Union. If you lose that position, you lose your power and any influence with the world leaders. You'd be wise to accept the "get out of jail free" card you've been awarded by the EU, instead of being selfish and demanding more, which will only work against you.

Plus, the East is an unstable mess full of violence and betrayal. I guess that symbolises Turkish desperation for acceptance.

What will happen to the GCs their EU leverage with disappear overnight, then where will they be?

You massively missed my point. Right now, the EU has to take into consideration Turkey as a future member, so they have to try and please both Greeks and Turks. Once Turkey - EU relations breakdown, the EU will only have to concern themselves with EU land, therefore, Cyprus.

As I said before, with the EU, Turkey have been granted a "get out of jail free" card, and if they don't take it, they will never have another chance to wipe illegal invasion and ethnic cleansing under the carpet.

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Could you clarify what this "get out of jail free card" actually is? and without Turkeys desire to enter the EU what can they do to force a solution against the TCs will?

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Could you clarify what this "get out of jail free card" actually is? and without Turkeys desire to enter the EU what can they do to force a solution against the TCs will?

Right now, Turkey are in a position in which they can reach a peaceful deal over Cyprus so that what was done in 1974, and since then, can be forgotten. If Turkey does not jump at this chance, there will eventually be a more hostile changing of land, even as a strong war between politicians.

The TC's are not the problem, Turkey are. Had Turkey never sent Turkish settlers to Cyprus, an agreement over the rights the Turkish Cypriot minority has would have been agreed, that I am 100% sure on.

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Could you clarify what this "get out of jail free card" actually is? and without Turkeys desire to enter the EU what can they do to force a solution against the TCs will?

Right now, Turkey are in a position in which they can reach a peaceful deal over Cyprus so that what was done in 1974, and since then, can be forgotten. If Turkey does not jump at this chance, there will eventually be a more hostile changing of land, even as a strong war between politicians.

The TC's are not the problem, Turkey are. Had Turkey never sent Turkish settlers to Cyprus, an agreement over the rights the Turkish Cypriot minority has would have been agreed, that I am 100% sure on.

Wheres the deal? we have been unable to agree a solution for over 50 years, have you been on this planet? need I remind you that the GCs rejected the last opportunity. If you are offering an "agreement" where the TCs have minority rights in a GC state then it would be rejected.

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Could you clarify what this "get out of jail free card" actually is? and without Turkeys desire to enter the EU what can they do to force a solution against the TCs will?

Right now, Turkey are in a position in which they can reach a peaceful deal over Cyprus so that what was done in 1974, and since then, can be forgotten. If Turkey does not jump at this chance, there will eventually be a more hostile changing of land, even as a strong war between politicians.

The TC's are not the problem, Turkey are. Had Turkey never sent Turkish settlers to Cyprus, an agreement over the rights the Turkish Cypriot minority has would have been agreed, that I am 100% sure on.

Wheres the deal? we have been unable to agree a solution for over 50 years, have you been on this planet? need I remind you that the GCs rejected the last opportunity. If you are offering an "agreement" where the TCs have minority rights in a GC state then it would be rejected.

The last opportunity was ridiculously Turkish biased and offered Greeks no protection whatsoever.

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Could you clarify what this "get out of jail free card" actually is? and without Turkeys desire to enter the EU what can they do to force a solution against the TCs will?

Right now, Turkey are in a position in which they can reach a peaceful deal over Cyprus so that what was done in 1974, and since then, can be forgotten. If Turkey does not jump at this chance, there will eventually be a more hostile changing of land, even as a strong war between politicians.

The TC's are not the problem, Turkey are. Had Turkey never sent Turkish settlers to Cyprus, an agreement over the rights the Turkish Cypriot minority has would have been agreed, that I am 100% sure on.

Wheres the deal? we have been unable to agree a solution for over 50 years, have you been on this planet? need I remind you that the GCs rejected the last opportunity. If you are offering an "agreement" where the TCs have minority rights in a GC state then it would be rejected.

The last opportunity was ridiculously Turkish biased and offered Greeks no protection whatsoever.

Why didnt the GC leader ask for it? what would be your "agreement" with TCs?