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[zan]

Me no. But you must be taking something. I am a moderator here and I need to come every now and then to check things. Whenever I come you are here! Don't you even sleep? What about work or studying or something? Are you addicted to the Cyprus problem?

Has he got a photo of you or something bg_??:lol:

Seriously though Piratis, you and Source are constantly contradicting your selves. Source doesn’t want bg_ to post here because he does not live in Cyprus, when neither does Source. You both make a statement about something occurring without any links or proof and then proceed to ask for links and proof from Source. When he provides proof, he is accused of having an arsenal of propaganda. Now as moderator you are having a go at someone who is passionate enough, about what he thinks is right, to get involved in a discussion and you question his motives. Without him and others like him, what are you going to moderate? Perhaps, if you just want a thread that praises the Piratis ideal you should open a new topic and ask admin to ban all that dare to think otherwise. You keep using the word democratic and legal to make your point but constantly ignore the very meaning of the words. Still, you do manage to keep your language relatively clean as opposed to some (not mentioning any names). Please, also, can you define your job as moderator? Is it to moderate language, personal attacks or to override the views of any Turk that writes here in a constructive and informed way that bg_ is. Perhaps the office of moderator should have its name changed to “Dictator”. Or you should resign your post, which will give you freedom to protest any thing TC.

You guys are also always quoting these magical figures between 70% and 80% majority and profess to it being fair and that everything should be done within their wishes. Well I ask the RoC government to take into consideration that, had I not been chased out of my country by a small but powerful group of terrorists. And had the government of the time used its powers to control these terrorists and provide me with the protection and civil rights. I would have been there to cast my vote along with the others. If they are willing to give me my vote back, in circumstance to my current situation, which was forced on me by my minority status, I promise to vote in a responsible way.

[lysi]

bg-turk are you the minister for pro-occupation prapaganda ?

[Piratis]

You both make a statement about something occurring without any links or proof and then proceed to ask for links and proof from Source.

I ask for links of proof when an event is unknown to me (like the case above) and I am more than willing to give links of proof in case I am asked. Unlike some others I do not maintain a directory with propaganda links though. If you doubt that the event with the woman cutting a flower from her garden and been arrested occurred then tell me. I will be glad to provide you with the links.

Now as moderator you are having a go at someone who is passionate enough, about what he thinks is right, to get involved in a discussion and you question his motives. Without him and others like him, what are you going to moderate?

I am not questioning his motives, I simply asked what his motives are and what kind of relation he has with Cyprus. Is he simply supporting the fellow Turks, or is there something else in addition. (e.g part of a research that he is doing). I don't think there is anything wrong in asking a foreigner why he got involved in the Cyprus problem, is there?

You keep using the word democratic and legal to make your point but constantly ignore the very meaning of the words.

And in what way I have been illegal or undemocratic? Maybe the problem is that you do not fully understand the meaning of the words?

Please, also, can you define your job as moderator?

I am a moderator in the classifieds and tourism forums only and my "job" is to check every now and then and make sure that nobody is braking the rules too much.

Is it to moderate language, personal attacks or to override the views of any Turk that writes here in a constructive and informed way that bg_ is.

How did I "override" the views of any Turk??? I simply give my opinion in the way that you give yours. In this forum I am just a member like you are and I am free to say whatever I want.

Perhaps the office of moderator should have its name changed to “Dictator”. Or you should resign your post, which will give you freedom to protest any thing TC.

The only one who has a "dictator" mentality in here is you since you want to silence my opinion.

You guys are also always quoting these magical figures between 70% and 80% majority and profess to it being fair and that everything should be done within their wishes. Well I ask the RoC government to take into consideration that, had I not been chased out of my country by a small but powerful group of terrorists. And had the government of the time used its powers to control these terrorists and provide me with the protection and civil rights. I would have been there to cast my vote along with the others. If they are willing to give me my vote back, in circumstance to my current situation, which was forced on me by my minority status, I promise to vote in a responsible way.

I am not exactly following your argument here. Is it of the type: "Since the police didn't get some other criminals 40 years ago I have the right to be criminal also"? Please clarify. Your above quoted paragraph is somewhat confusing.

If what you mean is that you were forced out of Cyprus by that group of terrorists and now you want justice, then I agree. You have the right to take those criminals to the court and you have the right to get all your legal rights back like all the rest of us do.

[bg_turk]

I ask for links of proof when an event is unknown to me (like the case above) and I am more than willing to give links of proof in case I am asked. Unlike some others I do not maintain a directory with propaganda links though. If you doubt that the event with the woman cutting a flower from her garden and been arrested occurred then tell me. I will be glad to provide you with the links.

Uff, Piratis, will it make any difference if I provide a link. Why should I waste my time, when it will not make the slightest difference. I have never seen you make any concessions, your position is hard as rock, absolutely unmovable. You recite the same arguments over and over again, arguing further is futile.

Besides, I do not have a propaganda arsenal of links, but I have google, cyprus-mail and BBCworld.

The only one who has a "dictator" mentality in here is you since you want to silence my opinion.

Piratis, we do not have the means to silence you, let alone try it. Besides how quickly and conveniently you forget your dictatorial attitude of dictating TCs what flag represents them. Not a dictator ha?

[Piratis]

I have never seen you make any concessions, your position is hard as rock, absolutely unmovable.

My position is "movable" within some fundamental principles. I am more than willing to change my position on things that would not violate the universally accepted principles of democracy and human rights. I believe that most people would be quite "hard" on these principles for their own countries and I am not an exception. The problem is that since we can not agree on the fundamental principles we never get the change to discuss things that I would be as flexible as possible.

And I didn't see your position moving either by the way

Piratis, we do not have the means to silence you, let alone try it.

We are on the internet. As long as we are online only the CIA has the power to silence any of us.

Besides how quickly and conveniently you forget your dictatorial attitude of dictating TCs what flag represents them.

Where did I dictate anything? I simply said that the "TRNC" flag represents the so called "TRNC" and not TCs. Thats why it is called "TRNC" flag and not TC flag.
Do you know that many TCs including relatives of Denctash himself have RoC passports and even more TCs are RoC citizens? The assumption that TC = "TRNC" is wrong.

[Main_Source]

When I was in Nicosia when the green line first open...I saw a lot of TC with the RoC flag on their mobile phone screen. BG Turk is just making his weak assumptions again.

[zan]

Me no. But you must be taking something. I am a moderator here and I need to come every now and then to check things. Whenever I come you are here! Don't you even sleep? What about work or studying or something? Are you addicted to the Cyprus problem?

Of course we could also think in a conspiracy way and say that this is actually your work and you are working overtime

Well you could argue that you were not trying to silence bg_ but when coupled with what Source was saying and still is saying it does look awfully like a sly way of belittling his views. Provide the proof is what you said without providing it yourself. As for changing minds, I am not here to change anyone’s mind, just to put them straight when they are saying things without substance.

[zan]

When I was in Nicosia when the green line first open...I saw a lot of TC with the RoC flag on their mobile phone screen. BG Turk is just making his weak assumptions again.

I'm not one hundred percent sure, but could that have been the service providers’ emblem. It could always have been a trick to make you think that they liked you.

[bg_turk]

Well you could argue that you were not trying to silence bg_ but when coupled with what Source was saying and still is saying it does look awfully like a sly way of belittling his views. Provide the proof is what you said without providing it yourself. As for changing minds, I am not here to change anyone’s mind, just to put them straight when they are saying things without substance.

I think they do have abusive tendenices sometimes. I have witnessed so many times when they were trying to corner Viewpoint with extremely abusive language.
But I respect Piratis, because he doesn't usually go further then calling me racist, in sharp contrast to other entities in this forum.

[Main_Source]

lol Zan...and you accuse ME of not knowing whats going on in cyprus.

Firstly, no it wasnt a service provider trick. It was TC's genuinely wanting a united Cyprus with RoC logo's on their phones. This was in 2003, before the details of the Annan plan were known. Infact, I was in Nicosia when the greenline opened and it was an unexpected shock...suddenly seeing TC walk around Ledra Street. almost the first TC I met there was some guy asking if anyone lived in Wood Green lol I started laughing but my uncle didnt know what I was talking about.

end of the day Zan, you know very well that if this continuing occupation goes on...the numbers of TC will diminish. what you accuse GC of doing is exactly what Turkey is doing right now. How proud are YOU of being Turkish Cypriot??

I think they do have abusive tendenices sometimes.

HAHAHAHA...Oh my God....you are truely an ignorant arse lol. 'I think they do have abusive tendencies sometimes' lol. OK, that perfectly entitles me to say all Turks are disgusting football hooligans who kill at any moment. Infact, you ALL have BO problems and all have square heads. BG, you are SO desparate to make Greeks look bad that you say silly things in the process. I'd be surprised if you actually KNOW any GC.