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[ChomskyFan]

when i went to the other side my bapou gave me a letter. he said not to read it until i was there. i cant remember exactly but it went something like this...

(my name)

by now you are over looking the houses and farm that our family built. this is where the (family name) family has its home. there are people living in my house but dont let their presence fool you. survey all that you can see for one day my son it will all be yours. hate is a weak mans revenge. dont hate the turks. pitty them because they are forced to live a life of pauperism in another mans home.

the day will come when i will give you my legacy and then the time will come when you will take back what is rightfully yours.

That is amazing man, your bapou sounds like a great man. my bapou and yiayia died too early for even the when travel was opened.

[Greekmaniac]

when i went to the other side my bapou gave me a letter. he said not to read it until i was there. i cant remember exactly but it went something like this...

(my name)

by now you are over looking the houses and farm that our family built. this is where the (family name) family has its home. there are people living in my house but dont let their presence fool you. survey all that you can see for one day my son it will all be yours. hate is a weak mans revenge. dont hate the turks. pitty them because they are forced to live a life of pauperism in another mans home.

the day will come when i will give you my legacy and then the time will come when you will take back what is rightfully yours.

That's a phenomenal letter and your bapou sounds like a true patriot , I will not disrespect anyone for visiting there home , and I ask for the same respect for not visiting , maybe one day.

[demetriou_74]

my bapou is a legend. i can honestly say that i want to be just liek him when i grow up. he and i alike both believe that justified hate is more valid than unjustified praise

[demetriou_74]

i ask if there was a war in cyprus would you go and fight for the greeks?

i can honeslty say that i would not join up. after reading the Memoirs of General Grivas i can say that gurieulla warfare is much more effective when fighting an army that out numbers you. EOKA B was just a cheap imintation.

power can be taken but respect must be earned. and given the choice i would rather be feared than respected becasue respect wears off as fear is for life.

[Greekmaniac]

i ask if there was a war in cyprus would you go and fight for the greeks?

i can honeslty say that i would not join up. after reading the Memoirs of General Grivas i can say that gurieulla warfare is much more effective when fighting an army that out numbers you. EOKA B was just a cheap imintation.

power can be taken but respect must be earned. and given the choice i would rather be feared than respected becasue respect wears off as fear is for life.

A war in Cyprus a very complex subject , I would fight only if I knew that I was fighting with my Greek brothers for a solution that makes sence , and in my opinion there is only one solution , and the Cyprus I know would never accept it. I refuse to flip flop on the discussion of Greek land.

[demetriou_74]

A war in Cyprus a very complex subject , I would fight only if I knew that I was fighting with my Greek brothers for a solution that makes sence , and in my opinion there is only one solution , and the Cyprus I know would never accept it. I refuse to flip flop on the discussion of Greek land.

what would this solution be and what are you on about with flip flops.

[Greekmaniac]

A war in Cyprus a very complex subject , I would fight only if I knew that I was fighting with my Greek brothers for a solution that makes sence , and in my opinion there is only one solution , and the Cyprus I know would never accept it. I refuse to flip flop on the discussion of Greek land.

what would this solution be and what are you on about with flip flops.

The Greek maniac plan //
Phase one : Turkish army removal.
Phase two : Settlers must all go back to Turkey
Phase three: Cyprus becomes Greek state ( 1960 constitution is removed greek flag becomes official)
Phase four: All displaced peoples are returned to their homes GC & TC.
Phase five: All people have equal rights under European laws
Phase six: Turkey must sign for a second time that she has no claim to Cyprus (and hopefully obey the law this time)
Phase seven:The British bases stop being British land , and think of the bases as a lease and pay the government what is due including back pay.
Phase seven:The turkish cyprians are given a choice as to the school they want to attend , if turkish the government will help build schools in order for the maintenance of language, tradition and culture.

[ChomskyFan]

i ask if there was a war in cyprus would you go and fight for the greeks?

i can honeslty say that i would not join up. after reading the Memoirs of General Grivas i can say that gurieulla warfare is much more effective when fighting an army that out numbers you. EOKA B was just a cheap imintation.

power can be taken but respect must be earned. and given the choice i would rather be feared than respected becasue respect wears off as fear is for life.

A war in Cyprus a very complex subject , I would fight only if I knew that I was fighting with my Greek brothers for a solution that makes sence , and in my opinion there is only one solution , and the Cyprus I know would never accept it. I refuse to flip flop on the discussion of Greek land.

My brother, one day there will be an hour when all Greeks draw swords together, shoulder rifles and begin our march back to our homelands in Minor Asia, Cyprus will just be a small part of this liberation operation.

[Greekmaniac]

THIS HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER FOR ALL THE OCCUPYING FORCES OF GREECE AND ALL TRAITORS OF THE GREEK STATE.

1 .The war of Independence 1821
2 .1832 The creation of modern Greece (john capodistria)
3 . Meyali idea is born
4 .1881 Thessaly and Epirus
5 .1897 Greece declares war lands troops on Crete (European powers intervene and save the Turks)
6 .1890 Greece moves to Macedonia ( European powers intervene Turkey receives money and small amount of land on thessaly border , First time in 100 years Greece gives up land to Turkey)
7 . 1912Greece declares war on Turkey Greece occupies thessaloniki
8 .Greek army moves towards Constantinople ( Eurpean powers intervene to save the Turks)
9 .1913 Greece goes to war with Bulgaria Greece gets Macedonia,Crete, and the Agean Islands.
10 .1913 WW1 the allies offer Smyrna Cyprus , and Constantinople to enter war
11 . WW1 ends the Ottoman empire comes to end Greece gets Thrace Smyrana and large part of western Anatolia 12 .1919 -22 the Greco-Turkish war ends in disaster for Greeks thanks to the back stabbing European powers Greece loses Smyrna
13 . 1939 WW2 Italy declares war on Greece and suffers a humiliating loss Germany comes to its assistance and has a very hard time conquering the stubborn Greeks
14 . 1947 Greece gets Dodecanese from Italy
15 .These were the last Greek speaking areas to be united with the Greek state leaving only Cyprus
16 . 1955 Greeks fight the British on the island of Cyprus for Enosis(EOKA)
17 . 1960 Makarios sells Cyprus out (needless to say European powers fuck us again)
18 .1963 Greeks fight for Enosis and the TC who have been recruited by the British forces
19 .1974 Greeks fight for Enosis and the TC who have been recruited by the British forces
20 . Eoka tries too reinstate the Greek government to its rightfull land
21 . Turkey uses Greek problems as excuse to invade a small island at its weakest point with US arms and a guarantee from the international community that they will no intervene Greece is held back by puppet regime .
21 .2005 38% of the the Greek island of Cyprus is occupied by the Turks
22 . As ive said Greece still remains in a state of war one day corrupt politicians will stop running the country and real men will take control.

Final note to occupying forces and traitors I want you to pay attention to the trend that has developed since 1821 Greece will unite all its people and land under the Greek state its just a matter of time .

[demetriou_74]

The Greek maniac plan //
Phase one : Turkish army removal.

would be a good for the islanders living a normal life not one surround by millitary personell.

Phase two : Settlers must all go back to Turkey

under EU law you can not chuck people out.

Phase three: Cyprus becomes Greek state ( 1960 constitution is removed greek flag becomes official)

should keep the cyprus flag

Phase four: All displaced peoples are returned to their homes GC & TC.

many people may not want to return back to their home as they have began a new life in another country, however they should have their land returned if they want.

Phase five: All people have equal rights under European laws

this has been the case sinse may 1st

Phase seven:The British bases stop being British land , and think of the bases as a lease and pay the government what is due including back pay.

will never happen. When the british gave back cyprus they did not give back the land where the bases were.

Phase seven:The turkish cyprians are given a choice as to the school they want to attend , if turkish the government will help build schools in order for the maintenance of language, tradition and culture.

a very useful idea. the cyprus government will be expected to asssisst witht he building.