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Postby Hermes » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:43 pm

PACE - LITURGY - RECOMMENDATION

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) has adopted a Recommendation to the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe, which contains a reference to the interruption of the Christmas liturgy in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus, which reaffirms that Turkey is responsible for what is happening in the occupied areas.

According to an official press release, the Recommendation was adopted on Thursday in the context of a discussion of the report submitted by Italian MP and President of the European People`s Party Luca Volonte, on behalf of the Political Committee of PACE, concerning violence against Christians in the Middle East.

In paragraph 13 of the Recommendation, PACE calls on Turkey to fully investigate the conditions under which the Christmas liturgy was interrupted in the villages of Rizokarpaso and Ayia Triada in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus, and to bring those responsible before justice. It also refers to the adoption by the European Parliament on January 20 of a resolution concerning the conditions under which Christians enjoy the freedom to religion.

According to the press release, the paragraph spurred an intense reaction by the Turkish delegation, the leader of which tried, on a Committee level and during the discussion at the plenary session, to pass an amendment calling for the elimination of the specific paragraph. The amendment of the Turkish MPs was put to vote and dismissed, and the Recommendation was adopted with the overwhelming majority of PACE members.


http://www.cna.org.cy/website/english/a ... 2.asp?id=2
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Postby CBBB » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:48 pm

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PACE - LITURGY - RECOMMENDATION

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) has adopted a Recommendation to the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe, which contains a reference to the interruption of the Christmas liturgy in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus, which reaffirms that Turkey is responsible for what is happening in the occupied areas.

According to an official press release, the Recommendation was adopted on Thursday in the context of a discussion of the report submitted by Italian MP and President of the European People`s Party Luca Volonte, on behalf of the Political Committee of PACE, concerning violence against Christians in the Middle East.

In paragraph 13 of the Recommendation, PACE calls on Turkey to fully investigate the conditions under which the Christmas liturgy was interrupted in the villages of Rizokarpaso and Ayia Triada in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus, and to bring those responsible before justice. It also refers to the adoption by the European Parliament on January 20 of a resolution concerning the conditions under which Christians enjoy the freedom to religion.

According to the press release, the paragraph spurred an intense reaction by the Turkish delegation, the leader of which tried, on a Committee level and during the discussion at the plenary session, to pass an amendment calling for the elimination of the specific paragraph. The amendment of the Turkish MPs was put to vote and dismissed, and the Recommendation was adopted with the overwhelming majority of PACE members.


http://www.cna.org.cy/website/english/a ... 2.asp?id=2


I don't doubt the validity of the content, but another source other than the Cyprus News Agency would have been more credible to non-GCs.
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Postby Hermes » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:01 pm

CBBB wrote:I don't doubt the validity of the content, but another source other than the Cyprus News Agency would have been more credible to non-GCs.


This is not an opinion piece. It is reporting on an official Press Release from The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE). You can see the adopted text on their Website (section 13 refers to Cyprus).

http://assembly.coe.int/Mainf.asp?link= ... EC1957.htm
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:14 pm

Hermes wrote:
CBBB wrote:I don't doubt the validity of the content, but another source other than the Cyprus News Agency would have been more credible to non-GCs.


This is not an opinion piece. It is reporting on an official Press Release from The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE). You can see the adopted text on their Website (section 13 refers to Cyprus).

http://assembly.coe.int/Mainf.asp?link= ... EC1957.htm


Yep a reliable, undeniable and unimpeachable source...

...which includes a call for the Armed Thugs who broke in to the churches to be brought to justice.

13. Following the adoption by the European Parliament of a resolution on the situation of Christians in the context of freedom of religion, on 20 January 2011, the Assembly calls on Turkey to clarify fully the circumstances surrounding the interruption of the celebration of Christmas Mass in the villages of Rizokarpaso and Ayia Triada in the northern part of Cyprus on 25 December 2010 and to bring to justice those responsible.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:34 pm

zan wrote:
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All4114All wrote:Just another example of the EU being a Christian Club.


Why does then Turkey wants to be part of it.????


I think we have assessed that improvement is needed 8)


Good to see that you still have your sense of humour, Zan. :lol:
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Postby humanist » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:40 pm

Just another example of the EU being a Christian Club.
Look no further than your illegal regime in the North and Christmas Day. Speaks volumes of the racist and discriminatory practices of TC's against the enclaved GC's . The world is soon beginning to see how malicious you can be. Has nothing to so with a Christian Club
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:11 pm

All4114All wrote:
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All4114All wrote:Just another example of the EU being a Christian Club.


Why does then Turkey wants to be part of it.????


Accession at the moment is more important than membership for the continuing Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) and entrepreneur investments into Turkey to help with economic growth as we are witnessing. This gives confidence for investments into Turkey that if and when it joins the EU it can open up the entire economy and take over the single market.

However if negotiations stall or either party walks away from the negotiation table foreign investment slows down and the government reacts with further protectionism. But we must also not forget the EU accounts for very high FDI into Turkey. So both EU and Turkey are interconnected than just a simple yes or no entry.

Besides the politics its $$$$$ that drives Turkey and EU to keep the accession talks open. Emerging markets (Turkey) always attract FDI as the currency is likely to rise.

Something to think about when accession talks began again in 2005 it was pressure from European Roundtable of Industrialists and BusinessEurope made recommendations to open Turkey EU accession talks.

That is why if this trend continues the EU will need to make a choice for a stronger union and globalization of it's currency for the future or keep doing what it is doing and growth of the union will slow in its aging population and economic crisis of many EU countries.

If we turn the clock back 10 years Turkey in meltdown and EU powerful even thinking of accession talks with Turkey would be a laughing matter. The world continues to change.

Please also understand I am not suggesting Turkey is the bail out of the EU but it is certainly ranks itself much higher than Estonia.


Listen my friend, no one doubts that Turkey is benefiting economically from her EU accession talks, despite Turkey telling us that the EU needs Turkey more than Turkey needs the EU. But that's not what we are talking about here, is it.?? You made a what appears to be a very negative remark bordering racism that the EU is a Christian Club, just because they have spoken out against bunch of "jack boots" storming a Christmas service in a church and throwing the worshippers out, and my question for you was, if Turkey does not like Christians, why do they want to join what you claim the EU to be a Christian Club. That is what we are talking about and not whether Turkey is benefiting from the EU business or not.

But since you have brought up the business side of the EU accession talks for Turkey which you stated how much Turkey benefits from, there may come a time that will become Turkey's downfall when Turkey does not make it into the EU and talks end or even the EU directly threaten to cut it's business ties with Turkey just because Turkey won't leave from the EU territories in Cyprus. Just like someone who is a drug addict and when they can't get their fix they will fall apart, Turkey may become that "drug addict" without her EU business fix to keep her functioning, but instead, start to fall apart economically. The EU is moving slowly with Turkey, but I'm sure their long term objective is to rid Turkey from Cyprus one way or the other without looking like Pricks while they are doing it. They will want to make Turkey look like Pricks instead. It will be subtle but effective. With all that oil and gas on EU's territorial waters off the Southern Coast of Cyprus, Turkey better start looking for another "drug pusher" to satisfy her needs, if and when the EU cuts her off.!
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:19 pm

Do you believe anything this joker writes about drugs and fixes,the EU is an ailing old man onthe verge of collapse Greece Ireland Spain etc etc are all starting to fall apart. All Turkey has to do is gove the impression she wants to join to keep those euros rolling in.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Do you believe anything this joker writes about drugs and fixes,the EU is an ailing old man onthe verge of collapse Greece Ireland Spain etc etc are all starting to fall apart. All Turkey has to do is gove the impression she wants to join to keep those euros rolling in.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

The "EU's Brick Wall" may have one or two cracked bricks in it at the moment, but the wall will be standing for a long time to come. That you can count on. If that wall should give way as you wish for it to happen, Turkey will suffer worse than the "EU Wall" itself.

Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it, which you may not like it at all.! :wink:
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Postby Lit » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Do you believe anything this joker writes about drugs and fixes,the EU is an ailing old man onthe verge of collapse Greece Ireland Spain etc etc are all starting to fall apart. All Turkey has to do is gove the impression she wants to join to keep those euros rolling in.


What are you....Erdogan's spokesperson? Everything that guy says gets regurgitated by you in seconds. :lol:
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