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Postby Oracle » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:04 pm

What a contrast between the pro-Turkish postings of Gasman [who is neither a Cypriot citizen nor Turkish (?) ] and the postings of Kikapu.

I know who the enemy of Cyprus happens to be. It's not Turkish Cypriots like Kikapu. It's Brits like Gasman.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:35 pm

Wow! From all these quotes we’ve just “discovered” that each person (politician or otherwise) has his own opinion on Turkey’s worth… :roll:

Conclusion: This thread is a dead end! :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:Wow! From all these quotes we’ve just “discovered” that each person (politician or otherwise) has his own opinion on Turkey’s worth… :roll:

Conclusion: This thread is a dead end! :lol:


It's only normal diplomacy for the US Ambassador to Turkey to state that Turkey is an important nation regardless if true or not. That is the nature of diplomacy.

The US Ambassador to Cyprus would make similar statements about Cyprus. Arse licking is their job! :lol:
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Postby runaway » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:12 pm

Oracle wrote: Turkish Cypriots like Kikapu.


:shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:16 pm

Problems persist with the US on fighter planes


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"Strained ties delayed delivery of plane accessories

As the agreement between the US and Turkey expired in 2000, Turkey has continued to work with Israel in modernizing the F-16s. Turkey has attempted to compensate for several mistakes that occurred while working with the US through several deals with Israel. The fundamental problem was that the US did not hand the F-16s directly to the Turkish Air Forces and it required TAİ-made planes be tested in the US before the eventual delivery to the Turkish Air Forces.

The US had also refused to provide source codes for the software of F-16s to Turkey since the inception of the joint production. Tensions in the relations between the US and Turkey have recently spawned a series of crises in this particular sphere, a possibility which Turkey has overlooked for years.

A senior official at the Turkish Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) confided in Today’s Zaman that the US is not willing to provide vital parts of the F-16 planes to Turkey in contrast to agreements the two countries have signed in the past few years."


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-233254- ... lanes.html
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:The only country that is letting the team down now is Greece, because it has not yet defined its maritime EEZ borders with the RoC. Shameful! :roll:


They were discussing it before January 13th this year ...

"They reportedly also discussed the Exclusive Economic Zone with Cyprus and how Greece can participate in the Leviathan natural gas reserve."
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:32 am

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The only country that is letting the team down now is Greece, because it has not yet defined its maritime EEZ borders with the RoC. Shameful! :roll:


They were discussing it before January 13th this year ...

"They reportedly also discussed the Exclusive Economic Zone with Cyprus and how Greece can participate in the Leviathan natural gas reserve."


The problem is, there is far too much talk from Greek politicians and not enough action. I can't believe how we can sign agreements with Lebanon, Syria, Israel and Egypt whilst Papandreou procrastinates in an effort to appease Turkey and form better Greco-Turkish relations. He is so different to his old man. Andreas was good at telling Turkey to shove it.

You can't bargain with crooks Oracle.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:42 am

Kikapu wrote:Problems persist with the US on fighter planes


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"Strained ties delayed delivery of plane accessories

As the agreement between the US and Turkey expired in 2000, Turkey has continued to work with Israel in modernizing the F-16s. Turkey has attempted to compensate for several mistakes that occurred while working with the US through several deals with Israel. The fundamental problem was that the US did not hand the F-16s directly to the Turkish Air Forces and it required TAİ-made planes be tested in the US before the eventual delivery to the Turkish Air Forces.

The US had also refused to provide source codes for the software of F-16s to Turkey since the inception of the joint production. Tensions in the relations between the US and Turkey have recently spawned a series of crises in this particular sphere, a possibility which Turkey has overlooked for years.

A senior official at the Turkish Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) confided in Today’s Zaman that the US is not willing to provide vital parts of the F-16 planes to Turkey in contrast to agreements the two countries have signed in the past few years."


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-233254- ... lanes.html


Good find Kikapu.

Here is another:

U.S. denies Turkey's request for combat UAVs

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribun ... _01_06.asp


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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:33 pm

Turkey won't be making too many friends with this movie by the sounds of it.!

German release date for Turkish movie angers local politicians

Sunday, January 23, 2011
ISTANBUL – MİLLİYET


The nationalist hero of the movie, Polat Alemdar, is a semi-official Turkish agent who exacts revenge on those who act against the Turks. Hürriyet photo
A Turkish action movie with alleged anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli overtones will be released Jan. 27 in Germany, causing an uproar because the date coincides with a day to commemorate Holocaust victims, daily Milliyet reported Sunday.

“‘Kurtlar Vadisi: Filistin’ (The Valley of Wolves: Palestine) is a problematic movie because it foments violence, anti-Israeli [feelings] and anti-Semitic sentiments,” said Kerstin Griese, a parliamentary deputy for the opposition Social Democratic Party.

The date chosen has elicited anger from across the political spectrum, with Philip Missfelder, a parliamentary member of the ruling Christian Democratic Party, saying it disrespected victims of the Holocaust.

Jerzy Montag of the Green Party said it was “irresponsible” to release the film Jan. 27, the International Commemoration Day for Victims of Holocaust. When asked if it would be possible to ban the movie, Montag said, “Unless it breaches the law, sickening things can be shown in Germany.”

Kurtlar Vadisi: Filistin’s distribution company, Cologne-based Pera Film, said it was unaware of the sensitivity of the date, German daily Die Welt reported. A spokesperson for the firm said they initially planned to release the film in November, but were forced to delay the premiere due to production problems.

The film reprises the raid on the Mavi Marmara, a Turkish ship that was carrying humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip last year when it was attacked by Israeli commandos, resulting in the deaths of eight Turks and one U.S. citizen of Turkish origin.

Kurtlar Vadisi first started as a television series, but spin-off movies have since come to accompany the continuing TV shows. The franchise is famous for touching upon political issues, such as when U.S. forces detained Turkish soldiers in Iraq and put sacks over their heads. The nationalist hero of the movie, Polat Alemdar, is a semi-official Turkish agent who exacts revenge on those who act against the Turks
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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-01-23
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:24 pm

Paphitis wrote:Interesting article from the NYTs Kikapu!

People should take the time to read all of it.

It just goes to show that Turkey is testing the patience of the US and other close allies.

I firmly believe that we are witnessing some subtle shifts between Turkey and its relationship with Israel and friends.

And as I told many before, a new power axis is developing between Israel, Greece, Cyprus and another between Cyprus, Germany and France. It will all revolve around Oil and Gas at the end of the day, and Israel/US mean business. Merkel also means business. I wonder if she has apologised yet??? :lol: :lol:

Oh and APAC will be visiting Athens in the comming days along with Hillary Clinton. I wonder what that is all about?

Try to enjoy the ride everyone. It will be turbulent!! :wink:

The only country that is letting the team down now is Greece, because it has not yet defined its maritime EEZ borders with the RoC. Shameful! :roll:


Paphitis, the bigger mistake of Turkish foreign policy is that -it testing the patience of EPSILONS!!-

Israel, USA etc ,will be the first shock, then it will be the appearance and final "schock and .. DEOS..!!!!

..EXEI KATI OIKOPEDA EXO APO THN AGYRA!!!!
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