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[denizaksulu]

Liberty is just another one of the those BS TCs pretending to be naive about things and ask F stupid questions to antagonise people.

Liberty = TC.

You what?

Don't worry Liberty, all newbie's are greeted with suspicion by most people here.

[B25]

Liberty is just another one of the those BS TCs pretending to be naive about things and ask F stupid questions to antagonise people.

Liberty = TC.

You what?

Don't worry Liberty, all newbie's are greeted with suspicion by most people here.

Deniz, do you think that Liberty is anything other than a TC??


Seriously, he/she is confused about whether the GCs lived all over, I mean come on. 80%+ GC population and you ask such a question.

I smell a rat!

[Liberty]

Liberty is just another one of the those BS TCs pretending to be naive about things and ask F stupid questions to antagonise people.

Liberty = TC.

You what?

Don't worry Liberty, all newbie's are greeted with suspicion by most people here.

Deniz, do you think that Liberty is anything other than a TC??


Seriously, he/she is confused about whether the GCs lived all over, I mean come on. 80%+ GC population and you ask such a question.

I smell a rat!

But Denktash said -

"The Greek side attempted to occupy the entire territory of Cyprus in 1974..."

I am led to believe they were in certain areas and then suddenly moved out which made Turkey invade, no?

[denizaksulu]

Liberty is just another one of the those BS TCs pretending to be naive about things and ask F stupid questions to antagonise people.

Liberty = TC.

You what?

Don't worry Liberty, all newbie's are greeted with suspicion by most people here.

Deniz, do you think that Liberty is anything other than a TC??


Seriously, he/she is confused about whether the GCs lived all over, I mean come on. 80%+ GC population and you ask such a question.

I smell a rat!

I would not come to a hasty conclusion as above. First of all, it is obvious that English is not Libertys' first language.

Unless you think or have proof that Liberty = Yfred.

[supporttheunderdog]

Liberty, all Turkish promoted lies.

The Island was given independance as a single republic: due to inter-racial violence (in which both communities played a part in formenting, at various times from 1958 Onwards) the T/C's fled north but G/C;s still lived in the North part of the Island.

IN response to a Greek Junta innspired attempt to annex Cyprus, through a coup, in 74, the Turks invaded, causing a defacto partioning of the Island and promoting further ethnic cleansing with thousand of G/C forced to flee South.

The Turks are lying whan they say they invaded to protect the T/C . The reality was that due to their perceptions of the straegic importance of Cyprus and possible consequneces on Turkey if it fell into Greek hands, they were always likely to invade if Enosis / Annexation by Greece came about.

This was apperant since 1955, and the 1959 agreements leading to the formation of the ROC were designed to deal with that threat by making Cyprus independeant, Sadly the Greeks and some Greek Cypriots did not abandon Enosis/Annexation by Greece, which justified in Turkish eyes the continued promotion of Takism, and which probably made the invsaion inevitable, particularly in the light of events after 1963 (the Acritas plan) and more so after events in 1967/8. the 1974 Coup (described by Big Mak as an invasion by Greece) was what ultimately gave Turkey the excuse it needed.

Sadly the T/C are still big sufferers since they are now being ethnically cleansed from the Psuedo state by Anatolian Turks, who are taking all of the Jobs.

[B25]

STUD, Excellent Post.

I wonder what he/she will come up with next?

[Liberty]

I thought i knew much about the CyProb by following the debates.

, the Turks invaded, causing a defacto partioning of the Island and promoting further ethnic cleansing with thousand of G/C forced to flee South.

Are you saying there was ethnic cleansing before 1974 which favoured the Turks?

Sadly the Greeks and some Greek Cypriots did not abandon Enosis/Annexation by Greece,

Why is this "sadly" if that was their wish? Should they have abandoned their wishes at the outset to avoid provocation?

Sadly the T/C are still big sufferers since they are now being ethnically cleansed from the Psuedo state by Anatolian Turks, who are taking all of the Jobs.

I do not think competition for "Jobs" can be equated with ethnic cleansing. Why do you feel the need to trivialise what the invasion has accomplished?

[Viewpoint]

Liberty hes referring tot he fact that the GCs wanted to gift the whole island to Greece, therefore making it a Greek island which we TCs opposed and stopped.

[All4114All]

Hi all CFers

I thought I was beginning to understand the Cyprus Problem. Today, I read this by Mr Denktash (younger) -

"The Greek side attempted to occupy the entire territory of Cyprus in 1974, but the Turkish side did not reconcile with it and had to interfere. After the agreement signed in 1976, the Turkish Cypriots living in the south migrated to the north, and the Greeks living in the north migrated to the south. We had not occupied the northern territories. The only occupied thing in this island is the rights of the Turks'."

It was in news.az.

I am confused by his statement and can pin it down to two main questions.

1. Was the Greek side in enclaves prior to 1974? Meaning, they did not occupy the entire territory of Cyprus?
2. How are the "rights of the Turks" being occupied?

The Greek side was all over the island. The majority in the north just as in the south were Greeks. In 1974 the gcs including my family from Morphou were driven out by the Turkish army during the 2nd invasion in August.

The agreement in 1976, 2 years after the gcs became refugees was mostly to accommodate the enclaved gcs and tc's that remained on either side and wished to move.

The rights of turks are not being occupied, currently the seats of the tc MPs are kept empty in parliament awaiting their return. They are all given Republic of Cyprus passports so as to enjoy the travel and work benefits of the EU and receive free schooling and hospitals in the government controlled areas.

1/3 of gcs lost their homes during that invasion. And Serder denktash is a dickhead. Clear enough?

Well said. Liberty, there are many credible articles out there which cover the Cyprus problem in depth and with balance. The name Denktas should have been enough to warn you off from possibly offending people here who have suffered as a direct result of ethnic cleansing dismissed by your man as "migration".

The name of Denktas, I gather, is much respected by many TCs so we cannot ignore this dynasty. The term 'migration' brings to mind herds of wildebeest doing what comes naturally. The reason he, cleverly, chose this, no? I stumbled. The CyProb is not natural.

Dynasty? Tang Dynasty (618–907) was great which we cannot ignore as a high point of Chinese civilization not Denktash.

[supporttheunderdog]

Liberty, Something else you should be aware of is that, for the most part, T/C property in the unoccupied areas has been taken under government guradianship with a right of the T/C's to return to the South and claim it back, under some prescribed conditions. Mosques likewise have been protected. I say for the most part as some land was taken by the Government to, for example, construct the highway (as was GC land) and some taken to construct Larnaca airport, when Nicosia could not be used,

The same cannot be said of the North where in breach of international conventions the property of displaced GC's has been stolen by the occupiers and illegally sold, while Chrches have been vandelised, and/or turned into Mosques. .

Further Turkish Cypriots who qualify for citizenship under the 1959 agreements are entitled to a RoC passport , and to Claim other other benefits of Cypriot citizenship,.