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Postby DT. » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:05 pm

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Postby Oracle » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:41 pm

Sargsyan Cyprus speech draws cheers at home

Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan’s speech at the House of Representatives in Cyprus on Monday has drawn mostly praise from different political forces in Armenia and has been described as “tough but appropriate”, one that is “in national interest”.

Not only in Armenia, but also in Turkey Sargsyan’s latest speech was called an “obituary” for the dead Armenian-Turkish rapprochement.

Speaking to Greek Cypriot lawmakers Sargsyan accused Turkey of thwarting the Armenian-Turkish normalization process and carrying out a policy of “Neo-Ottomanism”. President Sargsyan first referred to the Karabakh problem and reiterated that “while we are determined to resolve the issue in an exclusively peaceful and negotiated way, should Azerbaijan opt for a military adventure our response will be resolute.”
Political analyst Levon Shirinyan describes Sargsyan’s Cyprus speech as one of the rare speeches that “reflect the national interests to the best.”

“The speech was very sincere and addressed strategic questions. Everything was clarified. The president of Armenia declared a realpolitik concept, which is commensurate with the external challenges,” says Shirinyan, who heads the Department of Politics at the Yerevan Teachers’ Training University.

Sargsyan’s critical statements regarding Turkey appear to have elicited a wider response in Armenia.

Director of the Institute of Oriental Studies of the National Academy of Sciences of Armenia Ruben Safrastyan says the speech contained evaluations that the president of Armenia has never made yet.

“For the first time the President stated that Turkey’s policy is based on blackmail and violence and hinted that the genocide issue may become a precondition,” says the leading expert on Turkey.

“The process initiated by our sincere offer to normalize relations with Turkey, albeit through small steps, quickly came to a halt. Turkey destroyed it with its inconsistent posture, contradictory statements, and baseless manipulation of the process,” said Sargsyan, stressing that the process faced “the wall of preconditions.”

Sargsyan’s speech was taken positively not only by analysts and pro-establishment politicians, but also by representatives of the opposition Heritage party. At the same time, they stress that “the important thing is that what has been said eventually becomes a reality.”

Heritage also welcomes the declaration on bilateral relations signed between Armenia and Cyprus. One of the major points of the declaration is that Nicosia expresses solidarity with the Armenian position in the Nagorno-Karabakh problem.

In his speech before Greek Cypriot lawmakers the president stressed that “in search for the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh and Cyprus conflicts we resort to different principles of international law, because these two conflicts are different in terms of their nature, circumstances, history, and relevant facts.”

“Cyprus is a small country, but it is an important member of the European Union, and it may assist Armenia’s position at this institution,” said Stepan Safaryan, the leader of the Heritage Party’s parliamentary faction.

http://armenianow.com/commentary/analys ... rus_speech
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Postby insan » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:52 pm

Heritage also welcomes the declaration on bilateral relations signed between Armenia and Cyprus. One of the major points of the declaration is that Nicosia expresses solidarity with the Armenian position in the Nagorno-Karabakh problem.


Well done, then! :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:00 pm

insan wrote:
Heritage also welcomes the declaration on bilateral relations signed between Armenia and Cyprus. One of the major points of the declaration is that Nicosia expresses solidarity with the Armenian position in the Nagorno-Karabakh problem.


Well done, then! :lol:


Bilateral relations between Cyprus and Armenia are of a more mature disposition than any Turkey can manage. Cyprus and Armenia are intelligent nations which can juggle more than two thoughts in their heads at the same time.

In his speech before Greek Cypriot lawmakers the president stressed that “in search for the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh and Cyprus conflicts we resort to different principles of international law, because these two conflicts are different in terms of their nature, circumstances, history, and relevant facts.”
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Postby All4114All » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:03 pm

Heritage also welcomes the declaration on bilateral relations signed between Armenia and Cyprus. One of the major points of the declaration is that Nicosia expresses solidarity with the Armenian position in the Nagorno-Karabakh problem.

In his speech before Greek Cypriot lawmakers the president stressed that “in search for the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh and Cyprus conflicts we resort to different principles of international law, because these two conflicts are different in terms of their nature, circumstances, history, and relevant facts.


Let me get this right without diving too much into Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Armenia forces occupy about 20% of Azerbaijan lands including Nagorno-Karabakh and six districts in that region since 1988-1994 conflicts.

At the end of 1991, the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan escalated into war. Between 1992 and 1994 almost 20 percent of the Azerbaijan's territory, including six districts of Azerbaijan in addition to Nagorno-Karabagh, were under Armenian control, resulting in mass population displacement within the country. The State estimated the number of internally displaced persons at 778,500 by the end of 1993, and 604,574 as of 1 March 1998. UNHCR estimates are lower, with
551,000 persons at the end of 1997." (International Organization for Migration, 1999, Migration in the CIS 1997-1998, 1999 Edition, p. 40)


"More than 568,000 persons from western regions of Azerbaijan under Armenian occupation since 1993, including 42,072 from Nagorno-Karabakh, remained displaced within the country. Most were displaced from regions just outside Nagorno-Karabakh, including Fizuli (133,725 persons), Agdam (128,584 persons), Lachin (63,007 persons), Kelbadjar (59,274), Jabrayil (58,834 persons), Gubadli (31, 276), Zangilan (34,797), Terter (5,171) and Adjabedi (3,358)." (U.S. Committee for Refugees (USCR), 31 December 2000, World Refugee Survey 2000, Washington D.C.: Country Report Azerbaijan)


And Mr Christofias "expresses solidarity with the Armenian position in the Nagorno-Karabakh problem."

I don't need to point out the similarities to the Cyprus problem but you can clearer see that what the G/C on this forum scream about and is echoed in their parliment in regards to Turkey which had rights to intervene on Cyprus. They express solidarity to such a nation and then they turn around 360 and accuse Turkey exactly what Armenia has done Nagorno-Karabakh region.

What a Joke!

What next Mr Christofias expresses solidarity to Turkey and signs a declaration supporting TA in Cyprus.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:46 pm

All4114All wrote: ... I don't need to point out the similarities to the Cyprus problem ...


Oh, yes you do! What are the relevant facts?
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Postby All4114All » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:09 am

Oracle wrote:
All4114All wrote: ... I don't need to point out the similarities to the Cyprus problem ...


Oh, yes you do! What are the relevant facts?


I think you already know what I will write but since you asked.

South Cyprus viewpoint of Turkey in Northern Cyprus;
‘Occupation’ of TA in Northern Cyprus (37%)
Settler’s displacement
G/C government rages.

Armenia
Occupation of Azerbaijan lands (20%)
Settler’s displacement
G/C Government supports Armenian's position. Pathetic.
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Postby Gasman » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:25 am

Apparently it's OK for Israel too.

But then they'd forgive anyone anything as long as they hate the Turks!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:49 am

oracle wrote:Cyprus and Armenia are intelligent nations which can juggle more than two thoughts in their heads at the same time.



:lol: :lol: don't make me laugh!!!
Your whole argument is based on your assertion that there is no Cypriot nation,you are all Greeks of Cyprus!...How can a non existent nation be intelligent??? :lol:
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:57 am

All4114All wrote:
Oracle wrote:
All4114All wrote: ... I don't need to point out the similarities to the Cyprus problem ...


Oh, yes you do! What are the relevant facts?


I think you already know what I will write but since you asked.

South Cyprus viewpoint of Turkey in Northern Cyprus;
‘Occupation’ of TA in Northern Cyprus (37%)
Settler’s displacement
G/C government rages.

Armenia
Occupation of Azerbaijan lands (20%)
Settler’s displacement
G/C Government supports Armenian's position. Pathetic.

I Prefer it this way.
Republic of Cyprus 37% occupied by Turkey for 18%
Armenia 10% Liberated
10%" Occupied " for 11 % with Greek included since they do make up 2% of the NKR Population.
Azerbaijan should have thought twice before they started discussing those direct flights. :wink:
PS with those Turkish figures Azerbijian stll owes the Armenian and Greek citizens of the NKR another 2% of land to be comparable.
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