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The Turkish embezzlement of Cypriot heritage...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:12 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
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supporttheunderdog wrote:I agree with you on that one!

The ROC will however have to ensure that as far as is possible Turkish speaking Cypriots who were forced to flee their homes in unoocupied areas in the period up to 1974 get their houses back too


The TCs were never 'forced' to flee their homes by the RoC
. They chose to go or were bribed/blackmailed by Turkey and fellow TCs.



Dream on Oracle. The evidence is there but you can't see it. Time will tell. Perhaps your escape clause is the use of the 'RoC'. They had no control over the paramilitaries, Sampsons forces, the police auxillaries and the 'organisation' all created from ex-EOKA people. Even the late Pres. T.Papadopoulos admitted that these elements were a loose cannon in attacking TC villages and even mixed villages and were also responsible for the kidnapping, hostage taking in the period 1963/1974. The evidence is there; seek and you shall find. Naturally, the TMT did take these dangers as being serious and helped the evacuations along.


If there was ANY evidence (not fantasies) that the RoC forced TCs to flee, you would present it as a counter argument to quash the recorded consequences of the Turkish Invasion which killed/mutilated thousands of Greek Cypriots.


Are you sure you do not drink Oracle. I was talking of the period beginning in 1963. We know what happened in 1974 thank you.


Aren't you fed up with scraping the bottom of the barrel? Time to retire from peddling this constructed and outworn, much-trashed fantasy.

The TCs were never forced to flee and the RoC has gone to great pains to conserve their homes for the long-awaited return to the normality which you destroyed.


YOU? Who is 'you'? Open your eyes girl.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:42 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:I agree with you on that one!

The ROC will however have to ensure that as far as is possible Turkish speaking Cypriots who were forced to flee their homes in unoocupied areas in the period up to 1974 get their houses back too


The TCs were never 'forced' to flee their homes by the RoC
. They chose to go or were bribed/blackmailed by Turkey and fellow TCs.



Dream on Oracle. The evidence is there but you can't see it. Time will tell. Perhaps your escape clause is the use of the 'RoC'. They had no control over the paramilitaries, Sampsons forces, the police auxillaries and the 'organisation' all created from ex-EOKA people. Even the late Pres. T.Papadopoulos admitted that these elements were a loose cannon in attacking TC villages and even mixed villages and were also responsible for the kidnapping, hostage taking in the period 1963/1974. The evidence is there; seek and you shall find. Naturally, the TMT did take these dangers as being serious and helped the evacuations along.


If there was ANY evidence (not fantasies) that the RoC forced TCs to flee, you would present it as a counter argument to quash the recorded consequences of the Turkish Invasion which killed/mutilated thousands of Greek Cypriots.


Are you sure you do not drink Oracle. I was talking of the period beginning in 1963. We know what happened in 1974 thank you.


Aren't you fed up with scraping the bottom of the barrel? Time to retire from peddling this constructed and outworn, much-trashed fantasy.

The TCs were never forced to flee and the RoC has gone to great pains to conserve their homes for the long-awaited return to the normality which you destroyed.


YOU? Who is 'you'? Open your eyes girl.


"You" is/are those who deny Cyprus its rightful Democracy.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:07 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:I agree with you on that one!

The ROC will however have to ensure that as far as is possible Turkish speaking Cypriots who were forced to flee their homes in unoocupied areas in the period up to 1974 get their houses back too


The TCs were never 'forced' to flee their homes by the RoC
. They chose to go or were bribed/blackmailed by Turkey and fellow TCs.



Dream on Oracle. The evidence is there but you can't see it. Time will tell. Perhaps your escape clause is the use of the 'RoC'. They had no control over the paramilitaries, Sampsons forces, the police auxillaries and the 'organisation' all created from ex-EOKA people. Even the late Pres. T.Papadopoulos admitted that these elements were a loose cannon in attacking TC villages and even mixed villages and were also responsible for the kidnapping, hostage taking in the period 1963/1974. The evidence is there; seek and you shall find. Naturally, the TMT did take these dangers as being serious and helped the evacuations along.


If there was ANY evidence (not fantasies) that the RoC forced TCs to flee, you would present it as a counter argument to quash the recorded consequences of the Turkish Invasion which killed/mutilated thousands of Greek Cypriots.


Are you sure you do not drink Oracle. I was talking of the period beginning in 1963. We know what happened in 1974 thank you.


Aren't you fed up with scraping the bottom of the barrel? Time to retire from peddling this constructed and outworn, much-trashed fantasy.

The TCs were never forced to flee and the RoC has gone to great pains to conserve their homes for the long-awaited return to the normality which you destroyed.


YOU? Who is 'you'? Open your eyes girl.


"You" is/are those who deny Cyprus its rightful Democracy.


In that case DO NOT REFER TO ME AS YOU.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:32 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:I agree with you on that one!

The ROC will however have to ensure that as far as is possible Turkish speaking Cypriots who were forced to flee their homes in unoocupied areas in the period up to 1974 get their houses back too


The TCs were never 'forced' to flee their homes by the RoC
. They chose to go or were bribed/blackmailed by Turkey and fellow TCs.



Dream on Oracle. The evidence is there but you can't see it. Time will tell. Perhaps your escape clause is the use of the 'RoC'. They had no control over the paramilitaries, Sampsons forces, the police auxillaries and the 'organisation' all created from ex-EOKA people. Even the late Pres. T.Papadopoulos admitted that these elements were a loose cannon in attacking TC villages and even mixed villages and were also responsible for the kidnapping, hostage taking in the period 1963/1974. The evidence is there; seek and you shall find. Naturally, the TMT did take these dangers as being serious and helped the evacuations along.


If there was ANY evidence (not fantasies) that the RoC forced TCs to flee, you would present it as a counter argument to quash the recorded consequences of the Turkish Invasion which killed/mutilated thousands of Greek Cypriots.


Are you sure you do not drink Oracle. I was talking of the period beginning in 1963. We know what happened in 1974 thank you.


Aren't you fed up with scraping the bottom of the barrel? Time to retire from peddling this constructed and outworn, much-trashed fantasy.

The TCs were never forced to flee and the RoC has gone to great pains to conserve their homes for the long-awaited return to the normality which you destroyed.


YOU? Who is 'you'? Open your eyes girl.


"You" is/are those who deny Cyprus its rightful Democracy.


In that case DO NOT REFER TO ME AS YOU.


Right you are, then. :D
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:32 pm

and the RoC has gone to great pains to conserve their homes for the long-awaited return to the normality


Yes indeed - here's just a few but they are typical of the condition they've been allowed to get into. How anyone can live in them for so many years without doing ANYTHING to them astounds me. This is the only one that is not inhabited and this was standing with walls and roof intact 3 yrs ago. It is gradually being demolished but you never see anyone demolishing it!


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Postby Gasman » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:39 pm

A big one near me has recently been extensively refurbished after the GC refugee living in it died a year or so ago. It is now inhabited by a much younger GC family - the owners of at least 5 cars and they've flattened the extensive gardens to park them on it. I will get a picture of that soon.

Some more being carefully preserved by their GC refugee inhabitants - when I first moved to this part of Larnaca I could not believe anyone LIVED in these houses (hundreds and hundreds of them) but they do and they park their flash cars right outside or on the gardens they've demolished to use for parking. They fly Greek flags from these crumbling wrecks.

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Postby Gasman » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:41 pm

Bit of the old mosque behind the fort (recently improved by lots of 'Fuck Off Arabs' and 'Kill a Turk' graffiti being applied all round)

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Postby Gasman » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:42 pm

Carefully preserved - my arse!

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Can't show you the ones they've demolished because they ain't there any more!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:50 pm

Gasman wrote:Carefully preserved - my arse!

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Can't show you the ones they've demolished because they ain't there any more!


That gives a new meaning to TLC. Are your they are not gypsies?...but you said they fly the Greek flag :?
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Postby ZoC » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:02 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/ja ... rus-church

great news story...

george obviously has a thing for well hung Cypriot icons.
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