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[fig head]

what all of you smoking??? all those big words that i dont understand.. mm someone needs to go out more !!

[Raymanoff]

Ger Real i do iOS apps, Online and Offline, Flex Applications online and Offline... i do intranets for Banks, I build custom CRM systems etc, ti to dialole les tora? Ixes Xazepsi telia?

[Gasman]

You're obsolete my baby, my poor old-fashioned babe
I said, "Baby, baby, baby, you're out of time"

Well, baby, baby, baby, you're out of time
I said, "Baby, baby, baby, you're out of time"
Yes, you are all left out, out of there without a doubt
'Cause baby, baby, baby, you're out of time

Good luck GR - I work with plenty of bods who can do what you need - I can even do most of it myself (needs must with the new Win7 or I'd be waiting on them all the time now) but you wouldn't want some scummy traitorous Brits poking around in your archaic systems would you!

And CBBB ..... rofl!

Are you working on getting your website to function in all major browsers yet?

[CBBB]

You're obsolete my baby, my poor old-fashioned babe
I said, "Baby, baby, baby, you're out of time"

Well, baby, baby, baby, you're out of time
I said, "Baby, baby, baby, you're out of time"
Yes, you are all left out, out of there without a doubt
'Cause baby, baby, baby, you're out of time

Good luck GR - I work with plenty of bods who can do what you need - I can even do most of it myself (needs must with the new Win7 or I'd be waiting on them all the time now) but you wouldn't want some scummy traitorous Brits poking around in your archaic systems would you!

And CBBB ..... rofl!

I don't see what is so funny!

I bet there are more programs still being used written in COBOL out there than any of your new fangled languages that are only in fashion for a year or two!

[Get Real!]

Is it any wonder why the Internet is so slow and buggy when its very foundation is crude and inefficient crap like HTML? They should hang its inventor upside down on a tree and shove honey up his bum!

Anyway, after much struggle I overcame yet another obstacle. It took me 5 bloody hours to do what would’ve taken me 30 minutes in my heydays in a 3GL! It’s like the programming world is going backwards instead of forwards!

Anyway, eat your hearts out you unhelpful CF bastards! Here’s one of the sections that troubled me a lot…

[CBBB]

COBOL, one of the oldest programming languages created, is often thought to be as dead as Latin. Yet, as we reported in October, COBOL remains a consistently in-demand skill for enterprise developers. Why? Maybe because, according to an announcement from application modernization company Micro Focus, there are still 220 billion lines of COBOL code in active use in enterprise applications today. Micro Focus claims that COBOL still powers 70% of the world's businesses.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/ ... rprise.php

[Sotos]

Is it any wonder why the Internet is so slow and buggy when its very foundation is crude and inefficient crap like HTML? They should hang its inventor upside down on a tree and shove honey up his bum!

Anyway, after much struggle I overcame yet another obstacle. It took me 5 bloody hours to do what would’ve taken me 30 minutes in my heydays in a 3GL! It’s like the programming world is going backwards instead of forwards!

Anyway, eat your hearts out you unhelpful CF bastards! Here’s one of the sections that troubled me a lot…

HTML is not a programming language, it is a markup language. It can be combined with CSS for styling and javascript for behavior to create the front end of an application. The back end on the server uses some other programming language to process the information. If you wanted a "real" programming language running on the front end you can still do it. It is called "Java applet". The problem with HTML is that it is easy enough for people to create and publish it even when they don't really know what they are doing and that means a lot of crap is created

[Get Real!]

The problem with HTML is that it is easy enough for people to create and publish it even when they don't really know what they are doing and that means a lot of crap is created

You gotta be kidding me! HTML is just badly written illogical crap (worse than C) (but at least C is powerful) because instead of using nifty syntax such as… (examples follow)

SetFontStyle(Arial,12)

SetFontColors($0001,$0045)

WriteAt(478, 1024,’Hello!’)

WriteAt(478, 1024,’Hello!’, Arial,12, $0001,$0045)

Etc, it needs all these stupid little characters like “<” and this “>” (which don’t mean “greater than” and “less than” as they should) and slashes (which doesn’t mean divide as it should), and other crap that ends up looking like a fucking mess!

Productivity is severely compromised because of many dumb decisions that the fool who invented it made! I wonder how many BILLIONS of dollars worth of labour time have been wasted worldwide as a result of hundreds of programmers wasting so much time adjusting to its crude syntax!

Or how many trillions of unnecessary data packets have been exchanged between computers, as a result of unnecessary characters and crap that this shitty syntax utilizes.

As for CSS, it’s been around for ages and for the first decade it was so crap and buggy nobody was bloody using it!

Even ASCII escape sequences are more efficient than these two!

[Sotos]

SetFontStyle(Arial,12)

SetFontColors($0001,$0045)

WriteAt(478, 1024,’Hello!’)

WriteAt(478, 1024,’Hello!’, Arial,12, $0001,$0045)

You call that "nifty syntax"? That is mixing style with content and there is no structure in it whatsoever. HTML is not a programming language so there is no "greater than" or "divide" in the context of HTML. With HTML you simply use markup to structure a document. Styling and behavior should be separate layers so you can update each layer independently of each other. Saying that HTML should be like C is like saying that Word documents should be replaced with executable files. Just like you have Word (.doc) files that can be opened by a word processor you have html files that can be opened by a web browser. HTML is not the perfect markup language but comparing it with a programming language is like comparing apples and oranges.

And what you said about CSS is not true either. What can be buggy is browser support not the CSS standard. I hope you are not still using IE6 Have a look here to see how different CSS can style the same HTML document: http://www.csszengarden.com/

[Get Real!]

Sotos, here’s a classic example that exposes what an inefficient load of childish crap HTML is:

Browsers send an entire string of characters to identity themselves (the “user agent” string) such as…

“Compatible; MSIE 3.02; Windows 95” <- Meaning IE 3.02 under Win95
“Compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT” <- Meaning IE 4.01 under NT
“Compatible; WinNT; I; Nav” <-Meaning Netscape Nav. 4.04 under NT

…and so forth!

Now tell me… what is the fucking point of sending this HUGE string each and every time when all you need to identify yourself is a single Word value?

The first Byte of the Word can contain the reserved brand identifier and the second Byte can OR or AND the major and minor versions!

For example:

$0004 = 0 Reserved for IE
$0103 = 1 Reserved for NS
$0221 = 2 Reserved for Chrome
$0302 = 3 Reserved for Firefox
$0400 = etc, etc
$0500 = etc, etc

With a Byte value you’ve got a total of 256 slots so it’s not like you’re going to run out of Browser brand identifiers any time soon!

What a total waste of bandwidth from this one HTML command alone!