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[Viewpoint]

Another very interestşng letter stating the TC viewpoint, the trust element is again an important issue which is reitterated in this taken from the Cyprus mail today...sent in by Ahmet Dervish, Green Bay, Wisconsin.

I have been following Cyprus Mail’s internet edition for past two to three years to keep up with news from Cyprus. I appreciate the service that you are providing. It has been interesting to hear Greek Cypriots’ views on the Cyprus problem as I do not have the opportunity to talk to them very often.

As a refugee from the south myself, I find it very disturbing to hear over and over again about the Greek land in north Cyprus. How about Turkish land in the south? How about the villages that were left behind by Turkish Cypriots due to systematic attacks by the Greek Cypriot Administration between 1960 and 1974? Nobody is talking about those refugees and maybe most of the Greek Cypriot public do not know the human rights violations that went on for years. It appears that international law and human rights start after 1974 when it comes to the Cyprus problem.

There has been systematic ethnic cleansing against the Turkish Cypriots going on by nationalist Greek Cypriot administrations since the 1950s. This ethnic cleansing was going to reach a peak to the level of a human disaster for the Turkish Cypriots in 1974. Turkish intervention in 1974 happened because more than 150,000 Turkish Cypriots feared for their lives. The only hope they had was the intervention by Turkey as guarantor power. Turkey has had no territorial ambitions on any of its neighbours since the foundation of the Turkish Republic. The only reason Turkey came to Cyprus was to prevent ethnic cleansing of the Turkish Cypriots.

If there is a fear among Greek Cypriots about Turkey, we have to understand that there is a fear among Turkish Cypriots about the Greek Cypriot administration. Quite simply, the Turkish Cypriots do not trust the Greek administration. It is also very unfortunate that policies of the Greek administration lately are not helping the situation.

I think it is very natural that Turkish Cypriots turn to Turkey for survival. From a Turkish Cypriot standpoint the Greek Cypriot administration has only one goal in mind, to get the land back and to have control of the whole island. I do not think they give a damn about what happens to the Turkish Cypriots in the meantime.
To understand Turkish Cypriot concerns, I think it is time for the Greek Cypriot administration to stop paying lip service to human rights and international law and take a look at what happened prior to Turkish intervention in Cyprus. Since the rejection of the Annan plan and policies that have been implemented by the Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots are losing any trust that they may have had and it is coming to a point that this will be very difficult to reverse.

Any positive comments from our GC neigbours on this issue?? and how it can be overcome??

[Main_Source]

yeah, we've heard this before from people like you.

You'll say anything to keep stolen land.

I doubt TC dont talk about fearing for their lives by GC when they are getting a wage check or free healthcare by GC...but you WILL say it to keep the houses you stole.

parasite.

[Viewpoint]

yeah, we've heard this before from people like you.

You'll say anything to keep stolen land.

I doubt TC dont talk about fearing for their lives by GC when they are getting a wage check or free healthcare by GC...but you WILL say it to keep the houses you stole.

parasite.

Thank you for your kind comments...

[Main_Source]

Like I said before,

Thank you for denying me of my ancestrol home.

[Viewpoint]

Like I said before,

Thank you for denying me of my ancestrol home.

iNo problem, If you jump into the fire surely you will burn but if you were clever you would never have played with fire....

[Main_Source]

stop talking bollocks and admit that Turkey wanted to steal part of Cyprus all along.

Typical Turkish mentality, thinking they are always innocent. Your a joke.

ya teef.

[Greekmaniac]

But Murat played down the suggestions, saying construction on Greek Cypriot properties would continue as it provided important revenue for the struggling Turkish Cypriot economy.

“According to our statistics, the boom has triggered growth in 62 sectors of the economy, so there is no way we would call a halt to it,” he said.

Hey viewpoint glad to help out with your economy , stealing has become legal these as long as you know the right people

[Alexandros Lordos]

yeah, we've heard this before from people like you.

You'll say anything to keep stolen land.

I doubt TC dont talk about fearing for their lives by GC when they are getting a wage check or free healthcare by GC...but you WILL say it to keep the houses you stole.

parasite.

Main_Source,

as a Greek Cypriot who fears and despises the intentions of Turkey, I can sympathise with the Turkish Cypriot fear of Greek Cypriots, which is very accurately described in this article. Replying with "thief" when the TC side expresses its concerns is not the way to go, in my opinion. The TCs make the same mistake, crying "power-monger" whenever the GCs try to express their concerns ...

[Main_Source]

Lets get it straight - people like VP, deep down, they know the odds of intercommunal strife like Cyprus suffered decades ago is very high.

Both sides suffered and both sides are as guilty as eachother.

People like VP are still holding on to such arguments, so they can keep alive the Turkish dream of a hold on Cyprus. Nearly all the level headed GC here have admitted to the crimes of the GC side and also want TC to be able to get their homes back (which is more than I can say for most TC Cypriots wanting the vice versa).

People like VP are theives and parasites. They make silly excuses and ridiculous demands on GC people, in order to keep something from nothing. As far as Tc complaining about RoC taking Turkey to the ECHR...well why dont they do the same and take the RoC to the ECHR? Ive said it before and id like to see it.

If people like VP want to live under Turkish rule so much, why dont they fuck off and move to Turkey...because i've got a hell of a lot more rights then any Turkish troop to live anywhere i want in Cyprus.

This is more of the typical Turkish character, blaming the victim. Turkey has caused so much trouble with its neighbours..but always blames them. Blame the Greeks, blame the Armenians, blame the Kurds, blame the Arabs...they blame them all for wanting to make right what the Turks made wrong for them.

Why should GC suffer because it is our ancestrol home of more than 3,500 years and we are a a majority?

As for me, I want Cyprus for the Cypriots...and all should have the exact same rights, in anywhere on our island, as the other.

Alexandros, why dont you think about that before you over-liberally bend over backwards to let parasites like VP take the piss out of us.

[ChomskyFan]

Source I Admire the fact you are sticking up for our rights, in regards to 'blame the victim' side of things, I think you have hit the nail on the head, it's amazing how, some Turks can still have the audacity in regards to the Armenian Situation to claim the Armenians 'betrayed' the Ottoman Empire in acting for self determination for their own state, ergo, action against them was justified retribution for their heinous crime of daring to oppose Turkish Nationalism in all it's manifestations. And this isn't just a minority of Turks, this is a MAJORITY, the MAJORITY of turks actually believe, deep down, in their heart of hearts, that one of the worst genocides of the 20th century, acknowledged by virtually every leading scholar on the subject in the World, internationally recognized by the EU, UN and US Congress, is either a 'hoax' perpretated by 1.5 Million Armenians who one day decided to 'betray' the Ottoman Empire by pretending to be dead for 9 decades.

I once encountered a delightful chap on the forums of www.genocide.com by the name of 'Anti-Christ', he lies so frequently it was simply impossible to explain to him he had no credibility, he first claimed Armenia were developing a Nuclear Bomb to throw at Ankara, he claimed he knew this because he was a Nuclear Scientist but also a Spy for the Turkish Intelligence Agency (there's an oxymoron if ever there was one), who was sent into Armenia, he then claimed he uncovered evidence that the Armenians, working in conjunction with the Greeks, decided to fabricate claims of a Minor Asia and Armenian Genocide, he said that when he tried to photocopy pages of the documents in question in Armenia's National Library in Yerevan, he was put in jail for 8 years and he only managed to 'escape' by contacting some of his friends from the Turkish 'Intelligence' Agency. Later he went on to claim that he had fought with the KLA terrorists in Serbia and had personally killed 3 Serbian Generals. When I asked him about the KLA's links to Sex Trafficking and other nefarious practices he claimed that that was not true and that he had personally witnessed Ratco Mladic and Radovan Karadzic eating 3 Kosovan Children..... And he actually believed these things himself I think..... (Oh, he also joined Turkish Special Forces and took on 200 PKK fighters single handedly, and killed 4/5ths of them).

The same is true of the Arabs, oh dammit, if only the British would have allowed them to establish their own state, there would have been none of the problems that exist today - Arabian peninsula SHOULD be united, it will lead to peace. But of course, it may have damaged turkey TOO far, so they backed out.