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No, what you usually say is that it was wrong only because the GC made us do it.
So you know my mind better than me?? please refer back to my previous posts that prove you wrong.
Any so called comprehensive soloution from you VP, does not mean GC get back what rightly belongs to them. Things like an ethnically controlled Turkish state, which controls how many GC can live in, does not give back GC the freedom they deserve to live anywhere they want in their ancestrol homes. Such a plan is racist...but people like you hide behind the fact that Kofi Annan put this plan together and say because GC turned this aspect of the Annan plan down, that we do not want reunification.
Any comprehensive solution like the Annan plan is negotiated between our elected leaders, the contents are purely dictated shaped by our current situation and how to get out of this mess and unite, the fact that you rejected the Annan plan does not mean that it was bad plan for all, you feel it was not fair to GCs so you rejected it, now you have to prove to the world why you rejected something prepared by the UN rubber stamped by most of the world but rejected by yourselves. Rejecting it you have to take the consequences whatever that may be. if the international community view GCs as not genuinely wanting a solution then its not up to us to persuade the world that you are genuine and that you will work positively towards a revised or new plan. Your adminstrations actions are judged not only by us but the international community, we dont need to persuade them who wants reunification they already know.
Is the presence of a foreign army such as the Turkish military, the only way there can be peace on the island? How can you even use the words 'peace' and 'turkish military' in the same breath? What has the turkish military done that is peaceful? Do TC complain about harrassment when they are coming to the south to get paid or get free healthcare?
It appears that way our history has shown we were unable to manage our own affairs sucessfully and that a force was needed to keep the peace.
For TCs the Turkish Army and division brought peace but from your viewpoint and the fact that you lost the war and were unable to move around the island at will was not a peaceful situation. Peace for you is to be able to live anywhere and move around freely for me its survival and not being discriminated and persecuted thus living in fear for my life. If survial means not moving freely around the whole of the island then so beit, my life is more important to me than that.
As for harassment of workers and treatment at your hospitals, we hear different stories from so many TCs but the benefit your administration receives from such actions far outweighs the cost imo.
and how can we trust you, when you are so devious to try and tell the world that GC do not want reunification because we democratically voted against such a bias and racist plan like the Annan plan. Only a fool wouldnt see how one sided that plan was, yet you still try and tell the world that GC dont want reunification. you constantly make excuse after excause to keep something from nothing...you have baltently said in the past that you were all for segregation, so how can anyone trust you.
Im not asking you to trust me , if you feel we are devious then why do you want to live intermingled and share a united Cyprus??? The consequences of your no vote is your burden not mine, people will evaluate accordingly if they see GCs are truly working hard to unite the island then you will receive a more positive response not only from TCs but the world, you have made your bed now you have to lay in it.
I am not asking you to trust me or my community as the feeling is mutual and it for this primary reason that I support recognized division as I do not see the 2 communities making any progress what so ever towards uniting, so what are we left with? either the situation we have now or recognized partition, your choice? either way we will not have to work live or tollerate each others devious as you say attempts at getting the upper hand that should make you happy should it not?.
Right, but me being a GC does not give me the right to settle anywhere I want in Cyprus, because you want to manipulate your own Turkish state....besides, what the British made us implement in the 1960 constitution was undemocratic and unfair...and like you supposedly said before, all the problems and issues that were in the past were a res
ult of both peopls fault...or the fault of a small minority of those peoples. So why are you still making us suffer from something you supposedly said was the fault of GC and TC?
Man like I said it was all our faults we messed up big time but you have to come to terms with facts we have been divided for 31 years and we do not trust each other, thats what the problem is we are unable to find a formula that would build tust and a desire to unite and also make both sides support a solution that they would stick to and make work.
I thought you said both people were guilty? So whats this stupid analogy? Is this what they teach you in Turkish school? Is this the same example they teach you about the troubles with Armenians, Kurds and Arabs too?..and what years of Cyprus history is this example relevant to? Oh let me guess!!!...1963-1974...because thats the only time period you use in the history of Cyprus, in order for the excuse of the invasion...and even during that period, you have SUPPOSEDLY said both sides were guilty.
If you dont understand the analogy then thats your problem but Ill put it this way if you are the match which makes the bomb which is us explode then you cant really cry about it. Both match and bomb made the mess....please try hard to understand.
Here we go...you still thinking Talat is pro-reunification. Let me ask you something? Who are the people denying all Cypriots of a one man one vote system? Who are the ones who want to control and manipulate a portion of Cyprus, where the GC are limited, so it is a glorious Turkish colony, with the flag of Turkey painted on mountain sides and signs saying 'How Happy I Am To Be A Turk' at the checkpoints.
Get you blinkers off and ear plugs out and listen to what Talat is saying absorb and look beyong the maufactured propaganda of your administration. Although your administration provides lip service to wanting a BBF solution then there are 2 equal communites under the federal umbrella, your ideal of one man one vote will only reduce TCs to minority staus under a GC state which we will not accept and prefer to stay as we indefinately, that how strongly the TCs community feels about this issue. Limits have to be in place until we can build trust and work towards beoming more Cypriot than Turk or Greek this takes time and needs safety buffers which can be gradually removed if both communites agree.
You dont have to read those signs banners flags etc ignore them alltogether then you will not be offended. Thats what I do try it it works.
As much as I respect Alexandros, taking the softly softly approach to pisstakers and parasites like you is not going to get us anywhere.
I have stated my opinion about Alex, I only wish you had 10% of his qualities and understanding it would make your comments more palatable otherwise we will always beg to differ and never build bridges towards trusting each other which I can sense in your posts makes absoulutely no difference all I can say is the feeling is mutual you materialistic power hungry leech
