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Postby Oracle » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:38 pm

You can claim all you like that the word ‘yogurt’ is derived from Turkish (what? - from 90 years ago :lol: ) but there are Classical Greek records (in writing) which demonstrate the two roots of the word describing it as a cultured milk product. :D

Neither the product, nor the word, is originally Turkish and your historical revisionism has been challenged and debunked.
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Postby runaway » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:41 pm

Nikitas wrote:The word may be Turkish or whatever. The fact is that long before anyone in the Mediterranean heard of the word Turk, or yoghurt, people were making both yogurt .


Oh how sweet.People could not name "yoghurt" until the Turks came to the Med. :lol: :lol: Dolma is a Turkish word too. I love dolma with yoghurt. 100% Turkish :!:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:41 pm

Nikitas, I too think ready-made tzatziki is slop! But my home-made version is something else! :D Rich and creamy, minty and fresh ...
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Postby Daniella » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:46 pm

The origin of yogurt is commonly located geographically in Eastern Europe, where the nomads and traders have also introduced in the west. The Caucasian yogurt is also reflected in its etymology: turkish, in fact, the term joggurt means "thick or dense milk. "
Due to the volume of trade and military around the Mediterranean, the "thick milk" spread rapidly among the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Sumerians, Greeks and Romans.
Although its use in the kitchen is not new: it is mentioned in the novels "A Thousand and One Nights" in ancient books of recipes and Arabs in the Old Testament.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:46 pm

runaway wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The word may be Turkish or whatever. The fact is that long before anyone in the Mediterranean heard of the word Turk, or yoghurt, people were making both yogurt .


Oh how sweet.People could not name "yoghurt" until the Turks came to the Med. :lol: :lol: Dolma is a Turkish word too. I love dolma with yoghurt. 100% Turkish :!:


What did you use to make dolmades when you lived in Mongolia? The grape vine is Mediterranean … :lol:
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Postby runaway » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:50 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:The word may be Turkish or whatever. The fact is that long before anyone in the Mediterranean heard of the word Turk, or yoghurt, people were making both yogurt .


Oh how sweet.People could not name "yoghurt" until the Turks came to the Med. :lol: :lol: Dolma is a Turkish word too. I love dolma with yoghurt. 100% Turkish :!:


What did you use to make dolmades when you lived in Mongolia? The grape vine is Mediterranean … :lol:


Turkish from Bosnia to China. And what you've got is bankrupt hellass with 50% of a tiny island in the middle east. :lol: Get lost jealous mama
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Postby Daniella » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:23 pm

I would like to point out that even if it were invented (by mistake in the preservation of milk) by the Greeks, then of this great discovery (the process of coagulation) that what they have come up with..??? :roll:
Three types of cheese, maybe four or five….are good and I like all..but is nice at this point to show you with this “greek miracle” what we italians have made :lol:
Below a short list of italian cheeses made with cow milk (with protected origin named D.O.P)
In Italy there are over 400 types of cheese from cow milk, and a hundred made with sheep and goat milk.

The importance of a discovery consist to exploit the maximum potential plus
develop knowledge and we Italians are second to none (tied with the French)

Asiago D.O.P. pressato "dolce"
Asiago D.O.P. allevo "mezzano
Asiago D.O.P. allevo "vecchio"
Asiago D.O.P. allevo "stravecchio"
Asiago D.O.P. allevo "stravecchio riserva rara 7 anni"
Stravecchio di malga "ubriaco" al Torcolato Maculan
Bagoss di Bagolino "stravecchio"
Bettelmat d'alpeggio
Bitto D.O.P. alpeggio Olano - Valle Gerola
Blu del Moncenisio
Bra D.O.P. "giovane"
Bra D.O.P. "duro"
Branzi "giovane"
Branzi "stravecchio"
Brescianella "appassita"
Burlino nostrano
Burrata pugliese
Cacio verde di Trausella
Caciocavallo podolico
Caciocavallo podolico "riserva di botte"
Caciocchiata salernitana di bufala
Caciotta nostrana
Caciotta del Cadore
Carnia vecchio
Casizolu del Montiferru "giovane"
Casizolu del Montiferru "stravecchio"
Castelmagno D.O.P. stagionato
Dobbiaco
Erborinato alle vinacce passite dell'Alto Adige
Erborinato d'Artavaggio
Erborinato della Val Vigezzo
Erborinato naturale della Valsassina
Erborinato Valdiky
Fontal "dolce"
Fontina D.O.P.
Formaggetta al ginepro
Formaggetta al mosto di prugna
Formaggetta alla menta
Formaggetta alle spezie
Formaggetta dell'Alta Val Brembana
Formai de Mut dell'Alta Val Brembana D.O.P.
Fromadzo D.O.P.
Gorgonzola D.O.P. "dolce"
Gorgonzola D.O.P. "naturale"
Grau Kase della Valle Aurina
Grottesco d'Artavaggio
Lariano speziato
Latteria di Brunico
Latteria di Fagagna "stravecchio"
Lessino
Maccagnetta alle erbe
Mascarpone fresco
Mattonella al rosmarino
Matuscin della Valtellina
Montasio D.O.P. "giovane"
Montasio D.O.P. "stagionato"
Monte veronese D.O.P.
Monte veronese D.O.P. "stravecchio"
Monte veronese D.O.P. "ubriaco" all'Amarone
Morlacco del Monte Grappa
Mozzarella di bufala campana D.O.P. "intera"
Mozzarella di bufala campana D.O.P. "bocconcini"
Mozzarella fiordilatte a ciliegine
Mozzarella fiordilatte pugliese "intera"
Mozzarella fiordilatte pugliese "treccia"
Murianengo
Nostrale di Elva
Nostrano di Cavalese
Pannerone lodigiano
Parmigiano Reggiano D.O.P. "stravecchio" Extra
Pizzocorno di Staffora
Provola pugliese affumicata
Provolone piccante di San Giuseppe Vesuviano
Pusteria d'alpeggio
Puzzone di Moena d'alpeggio
Quartirolo lombardo D.O.P.
Ragusano D.O.P. "giovane"
Ragusano D.O.P. "stravecchio"
Raschera D.O.P. d'alpeggio
Ricotta vaccina affumicata
Ricotta vaccina dei Monti Sibillini
Ricotta vaccina fresca
Ricotta vaccina ossolana al fumo
Ricotta di bufala fresca
Robiola di Mondovì
Robiola vaccina fresca
Roccolo della Val Taleggio
Saccottini salernitani farciti
Scamorza pugliese
Scimudin della Valtellina
Seirass del fieno
Sola della Val Casotto
Spressa delle Giudicarie D.O.P.
Stracchino fresco
Strachitunt
Taleggio D.O.P. di grotta
Testun
Toma del Maccagno
Toma del Moncenisio
Toma del trifolau con tartufo
Toma della Valsesia
Toma di Gressoney
Toma di Valdo
Toma fiorita
Toma piemontese D.O.P.
Toma ossolana dell'Alpe Aleccio
Toma ossolana dell'Alpe Cravariola
Tomini di Staffora
Tomini piemontesi
Tosella
Tuma Persa
Valle d'Aosta Fromadzo D.O.P.
Valtellina casera D.O.P.
Verde nostrano
Vezzena autentico "Malghe di Vezzena" stravecchio
Wein Kase della Valle Aurina
Zincarlin della Valtellina "fresco"
Zincarlin della Valtellina "stagionato

and greeks are jealous of feta/yoghurt origin....??
they really do have reason to be :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:23 pm

runaway wrote:Has anyone told south shitriots the word yoghurt is Turkish? (comes from the verb yogurmak) Well enjoy Turkish yoghurt and I hope it boğazınızda kalır. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

You make me laugh. :lol: Always scared hence; Runaway. :lol:

Ingilizce yazsana olan. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:24 pm

Oracle wrote:
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What language are 'rizin pellafin' and 'mbourghouri'?. :? I wont ask about yogurt. :lol:
The roots of the words are all Greek, Deniz. The arabinised forms are more commonly used since the Arabs did the bulk of the translations from Ancient Greek, in the middle ages.

You jump at the slightest opportunity to claim that everything is Greek and in the process make a dork of yourself because “Bourgouri” is actually a Cypriot word!

The Greeks use “Bligouri” or something like that, and it’s a wheat pilaf not a cereal like someone else said! :roll:

And btw, given that stupid Greeks couldn’t read or write until they met Cypriots, then the roots to all the words you’re on about is CYPRIOT not Greek!


Your ignorance has become legendary. - You might have to do one of your Myth-buster threads to expel that idea. :wink:

Anyway, clearly clueless as to how (Indo-European) words are derived form an ancient root. Or are you going to tell us the dialect of Greek you mangle is not Indo-European in origin?

The root of rizin and other rice-products:

ὄρυζα … rice (e.g. Oryza sativa) … hence rizi.

The root for bourgouri is from wheat:

πυρός … wheat; and βωλόπυρος … wheat cake and πυρογενής for 'derived from wheat'.

The root of yogurt or γιαούρτι

γάλα ... for milk; and curdled milk was γαλακτοπαγής. And to make into curd-like cheese was τυρόω.

hence: γάλα + τυρόω = γιαούρτι

The earliest recorded evidence for curdled milk was from classical Greek although it's obvious it was the sort of thing which emerged in many cultures, but only the Turks think they have a monopoly on this. :roll:

What on earth are you rambling about? You can’t even stick to the issue without getting confused…

In pictures:


Bourgouri (Cypriot word)
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1 ... ell=1&sa=X

Bligouri (Greek word)
http://www.google.com/images?q=pligouri ... =&aql=&oq=


Piece of cake and end of story!

As for yogurt, the first person to domesticate sheep and goats (probably 10,000 years ago) was the “inventor” of it! Use common sense the lot of you!

Thus: The probability that Greeks or Turks discovered yogurt before the ancient Choirokitians is next to ZERO!
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:09 pm

Rubbish, the issue is, which is better. Who makes better yogourt. I think TC's are very good with dairy products in general. GC's are better when it comes to fish. Equal marks for souvla.
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