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[RichardB]

What language are 'rizin pellafin' and 'mbourghouri'?. I wont ask about yogurt.

The roots of the words are all Greek, Deniz. The arabinised forms are more commonly used since the Arabs did the bulk of the translations from Ancient Greek, in the middle ages.

You jump at the slightest opportunity to claim that everything is Greek and in the process make a dork of yourself because “Bourgouri” is actually a Cypriot word!

The Greeks use “Bligouri” or something like that, and it’s a wheat pilaf not a cereal like someone else said!

And btw, given that couldn’t read or write until they met Cypriots, then the roots to stupid Greeks all the words you’re on about is CYPRIOT not Greek!

F*ing Greeks dont even know how to produce a god Brandy....as opposeed to the Cypriot s who really do ( oh hadipavlou we love you)

Evening GR

[RichardB]

God = Good

[bill cobbett]

Pastourma, grilled halloumi, pastitsio, koupepia.

mmmm.... magaronia dou fournou....

Thats what my wife cooked yesterday. Yummmmmy

Pastichio, curious name. Always think might get a plate of nuts when order it. Must have some Italian derivation as must magaronia dou fornou.

[quattro]

Pastourma, grilled halloumi, pastitsio, koupepia.

mmmm.... magaronia dou fournou....

Thats what my wife cooked yesterday. Yummmmmy

Pastichio, curious name. Always think might get a plate of nuts when order it. Must have some Italian derivation as must magaronia dou fornou.

If you want nuts you must order Pistachio

[Bananiot]

Turks make the best yogourt, there is no doubt about this. Yogourt originated in Bulgaria I believe.

[Nikitas]

Do not know who did what first to what, the fact is that ancient Greeks used wheat and other cereals in almost every form we use them today- crushed, as bulgur wheat, mixed with sour milk as in trahanas and so on.

Yoghurt, and cheese making were known. It would not take much imagination for a culture used to fermentation to make wine to use similar processes with other foods.

In Greece the word pilafi never refers to bulgur wheat, it is always a rice dish. In my 36 years here I have never been offered pilafi, never seen bulgur wheat in a Greek restaurant menu.

Now yogurt is another story. Even the lowliest store will have several varieties. In a specialist shop there might be as many as forty, and that is not counting industrial packaged varieties. What you cannot find, and I tried, is Cypriot style watery yogurt suitable for talatouri. Which by the way is NOT bloody tzatziki, it is something totally different. Perhaps the situation explains why in CYpriot we do not use the word "yaourti" and prefer the term "gala oxino" which is pure Greek and describes the item precisely, soured milk before it has been drained.

For those that are interested in ancient cuisine there are a couple of restaurants in Athens offering dishes created from original historically researched recipes of ancient and Byzantine times. From what I hear the food is pretty simiilar to today's minus the tomatoes, potatoes, rice, beef and some spices. And there is an ancient form of baklava made with fyllo pastry and honey, sugar being unknown back then.

[Oracle]

What language are 'rizin pellafin' and 'mbourghouri'?. I wont ask about yogurt.

The roots of the words are all Greek, Deniz. The arabinised forms are more commonly used since the Arabs did the bulk of the translations from Ancient Greek, in the middle ages.

You jump at the slightest opportunity to claim that everything is Greek and in the process make a dork of yourself because “Bourgouri” is actually a Cypriot word!

The Greeks use “Bligouri” or something like that, and it’s a wheat pilaf not a cereal like someone else said!

And btw, given that stupid Greeks couldn’t read or write until they met Cypriots, then the roots to all the words you’re on about is CYPRIOT not Greek!

Your ignorance has become legendary. - You might have to do one of your Myth-buster threads to expel that idea.

Anyway, clearly clueless as to how (Indo-European) words are derived form an ancient root. Or are you going to tell us the dialect of Greek you mangle is not Indo-European in origin?

The root of rizin and other rice-products:

ὄρυζα … rice (e.g. Oryza sativa) … hence rizi.

The root for bourgouri is from wheat:

πυρός … wheat; and βωλόπυρος … wheat cake and πυρογενής for 'derived from wheat'.

The root of yogurt or γιαούρτι

γάλα ... for milk; and curdled milk was γαλακτοπαγής. And to make into curd-like cheese was τυρόω.

hence: γάλα + τυρόω = γιαούρτι


The earliest recorded evidence for curdled milk was from classical Greek although it's obvious it was the sort of thing which emerged in many cultures, but only the Turks think they have a monopoly on this.

[runaway]

Has anyone told south shitriots the word yoghurt is Turkish? (comes from the verb yogurmak) Well enjoy Turkish yoghurt and I hope it boğazınızda kalır.

[Daniella]

the word yoghurt has Turkish origin, if I remember correctly refers to the verb mix...
I am italian..so i say to you ... your "pasticcio" is quite edible except that the pasta is often overcooked ...and meat sauce is full of cinnamon powder... nothing compared to the lasagne that I do.
I like Greek cuisine, but the Turkish cuisine is much more varied because in addition to the typical Mediterranean ingredients has more "oriental" flavors (which I like very much)
Of course my fav is italian cuisine..the indian food come at second place

[Nikitas]

The word may be Turkish or whatever. The fact is that long before anyone in the Mediterranean heard of the word Turk, or yoghurt, people were making both yogurt and cheese, both processes of a microorganismic nature.

The Cypriot dialect uses the pure Greek words "gala oxino" (Γάλα όξινο) instead of the term "yaourti" used in Greece. Bearing in mind that Cypriot often uses antiquated language it is likely that the term has been in use for centuries.

Now as to the nature of the item. In Cyprus yogurt is undrained, which makes it ideal for talatouri, which by the way is not the same as that disgusting tzatziki stuff.