Cyprus-Forum.com

[Me Ed]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

[BirKibrisli]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

yeah???? Cyprus is divided since 74...Turkey has 40,000 troops and nearing 500,000 settlers (aka new TCs) in the trnc...There is no solution in sight,and the status quo is likely to be set in stone,making sure there is no peace in my homeland for the next thousand years...

You idiots refuse to look at the past events and try to understand why we are in the present predicament...Let alone trying to find a realistic settlement...And you call me blind?????

[Me Ed]

Ah, the new TCs, what the old TCs call the Turkish settlers that will take their place after their inevitable extinction.

Not sure if the Turks appreciate this label that you outgoing TC have put on them.

The reality is that you can stuff as many Turks as you wish up there, it won't change a thing.

[DT.]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

yeah???? Cyprus is divided since 74...Turkey has 40,000 troops and nearing 500,000 settlers (aka new TCs) in the trnc...There is no solution in sight,and the status quo is likely to be set in stone,making sure there is no peace in my homeland for the next thousand years...

You idiots refuse to look at the past events and try to understand why we are in the present predicament...Let alone trying to find a realistic settlement...And you call me blind?????

difficult compromises that have landed the Cypriot Presidemt in hot water with his electorate. That's what the Gc side has done in the negotiations. Rotating presidencies, 50,000 settlers remaining, and many more, what has the tc side come up with? Oh yeah the other day eroglu asked if he could sign international agreements as a tc state and that should one of the states leave the union this wont affect the status of the other.

Ate, go find the reasons you're homeland will not have peace in Ankara and quit your bitching and moaning at us.

[denizaksulu]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

You mention the realities of today!!!

Have you forgotten that the island is now divided, the GCs have lost their homes in the north, likewise the TCs have lost theirs in the south and the place is full of settlers with the danger of all of them becoming 'new CT's'.

NO agreement reached since the troubles began.........dont you think that is the true reality we ALL face today.

Turkey will not jump at anyones instigation. It will only do so at its own 'convenience' whatever that may be - unfortunately.

[Me Ed]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

You mention the realities of today!!!

Have you forgotten that the island is now divided, the GCs have lost their homes in the north, likewise the TCs have lost theirs in the south and the place is full of settlers with the danger of all of them becoming 'new CT's'.

NO agreement reached since the troubles began.........dont you think that is the true reality we ALL face today.

Turkey will not jump at anyones instigation. It will only do so at its own 'convenience' whatever that may be - unfortunately.

Thanks for reinstating my point.

I am well aware of the realities of today, but harping on about the past is not going to get us anywhere.

I was just trying to point out to Bir that the past, whilst important from a historical point of view, serves absolutley no purpose when trying to solve the Cyprus problem and is counter productive. He is wasting his breath.

What I have worked out is that a GC and TC can argue forever about the events of the past and neither side will ever win the argument. This is because we are both right and we are both wrong.

It's why I don't really waste my time talking about 1983, 1974, 1963, 1960, 1923, 1878 ... 1571.

The only way to solve our differences is to examine the realities of today and look forward, because one of the major realities of here and now is that the issues that the TCs face today have more to do with Turkish policy than for any other reason (IMHO).

[BirKibrisli]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

yeah???? Cyprus is divided since 74...Turkey has 40,000 troops and nearing 500,000 settlers (aka new TCs) in the trnc...There is no solution in sight,and the status quo is likely to be set in stone,making sure there is no peace in my homeland for the next thousand years...

You idiots refuse to look at the past events and try to understand why we are in the present predicament...Let alone trying to find a realistic settlement...And you call me blind?????

difficult compromises that have landed the Cypriot Presidemt in hot water with his electorate. That's what the Gc side has done in the negotiations. Rotating presidencies, 50,000 settlers remaining, and many more, what has the tc side come up with? Oh yeah the other day eroglu asked if he could sign international agreements as a tc state and that should one of the states leave the union this wont affect the status of the other.

Ate, go find the reasons you're homeland will not have peace in Ankara and quit your bitching and moaning at us.

I am bitching and moaning to you because unless you come to your senses soon there will be no point even talking to each other...You are playing into Turkey's hands and you afe too thick to realise it...The only way you can get Turkey to remove herself from Cyprus is IF you come to a realistic solution,and agree to share power with the TCs proportionally,as in the agreed Consititution and the international treaties etc...That is your only hope...I am simply showing you what you need to do...To save Cyprus from being permanently divided...If you refuse to look back and hang your heads in shame at the way you treated the TCs,and show that you are prepared to be better partners next time,Cyprus will be swollowed up by the new geopolitical realities which are fast developing in our region..It is no skin off my nose,DT..I have my safe haven in Australia...My children and their children will not be living with the present and imminent danger of war and destruction for the rest of their lives...Can you say the same about yours???

[BirKibrisli]

I was just trying to point out to Bir that the past, whilst important from a historical point of view, serves absolutley no purpose when trying to solve the Cyprus problem and is counter productive. He is wasting his breath.

So in your feeble mind,the key to solving Cyprus problem is to refuse to look at the past,refuse to analyse why things happened the way they did,and how we could avoid falling into the same traps,is that it???

So you want the world to tell Turkey to leave Cyprus,as we now do not need her help as a guarantor to keep the peace between Cypriots WITHOUT talking about how and why Turkey ended in Cyprus,and showing her you are not likely to repeat the mistakes of the past WITHOUT talking about those mistakes or even acknowledging them...Are you for real???? I am indeed wasting my breath...You people are blockheads,without anything between your ears! good luck satisfying Turkey you are now reasonable people without admitting any guilt or acknowledging any misakes in dealing with the TCs in the past...Why don't you try the line 'we don't think therefore you dont exist!' or 'we refuse to look b ack,so the past does not exist!' or 'I deny therefore you are not!"

[Me Ed]

I was just trying to point out to Bir that the past, whilst important from a historical point of view, serves absolutley no purpose when trying to solve the Cyprus problem and is counter productive. He is wasting his breath.

So in your feeble mind,the key to solving Cyprus problem is to refuse to look at the past,refuse to analyse why things happened the way they did,and how we could avoid falling into the same traps,is that it???

So you want the world to tell Turkey to leave Cyprus,as we now do not need her help as a guarantor to keep the peace between Cypriots WITHOUT talking about how and why Turkey ended in Cyprus,and showing her you are not likely to repeat the mistakes of the past WITHOUT talking about those mistakes or even acknowledging them...Are you for real???? I am indeed wasting my breath...You people are blockheads,without anything between your ears! good luck satisfying Turkey you are now reasonable people without admitting any guilt or acknowledging any misakes in dealing with the TCs in the past...Why don't you try the line 'we don't think therefore you dont exist!' or 'we refuse to look b ack,so the past does not exist!' or 'I deny therefore you are not!"

No Bir, your insistence on looking at the past is marring your perception of what kind of a place the Republic of Cyprus is today - a place and a people that are in the European Union and a place where TCs can prosper with or without the priviledges you demand.

[denizaksulu]

So you insist on being in denial,huh,mala?????
Then you tell us how we will get out of this shit...If we don't agree why we are in the shit,how will we ever find the way out...???

who the f*ck's mala??? free cypriots aren't in shit. only those living in the latrine turkey's created for u in the north are. how u get out? i don't think u ever will. just drop the 'k' in turk to a 'd' and get comfortable.

ps..What we are entitled to is what we were given in the international agreements which formed the basis of the True RoC...You wanted to rob us most of those rights and had your Enosis drunk ancestors not made the fundamental fuk-up and invited Turkey to come in,you might've gotten away with daylight robbery...You fuked up then and you are fuking up now by trying to deny history...You will never learn...Hence there will never be an agreed solution apart from the status quo...The status quo however will not remain static...It will change in ways you will not like,and you will be helpless to do anything about it...So,keep it up,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus forever...The TCs have already lost 100% of Cyprus,so we dont give a fuk any more...

bitching about the past and threatening about the future. someone pull the chain... this steaming turd needs flushing away...

You know who you are, Malafuka!!!!

Keep on denying history and keeping your head in the sand,and your arse will be Turkey's forever...But,you might be enjoying it...

Bir, an observation. You live in the past so much it obviously blinds you of the realities of today.

You might even be the last ever TC standing, barking about the past.

You mention the realities of today!!!

Have you forgotten that the island is now divided, the GCs have lost their homes in the north, likewise the TCs have lost theirs in the south and the place is full of settlers with the danger of all of them becoming 'new CT's'.

NO agreement reached since the troubles began.........dont you think that is the true reality we ALL face today.

Turkey will not jump at anyones instigation. It will only do so at its own 'convenience' whatever that may be - unfortunately.

Thanks for reinstating my point.

I am well aware of the realities of today, but harping on about the past is not going to get us anywhere.

I was just trying to point out to Bir that the past, whilst important from a historical point of view, serves absolutley no purpose when trying to solve the Cyprus problem and is counter productive. He is wasting his breath.

What I have worked out is that a GC and TC can argue forever about the events of the past and neither side will ever win the argument. This is because we are both right and we are both wrong.

It's why I don't really waste my time talking about 1983, 1974, 1963, 1960, 1923, 1878 ... 1571.

The only way to solve our differences is to examine the realities of today and look forward, because one of the major realities of here and now is that the issues that the TCs face today have more to do with Turkish policy than for any other reason (IMHO).

You may not like talking about the past but others do as they seem to see only one side of the coin and keep on repeating the formulae that it was only ones sides fault and not the others. Birs argument is mainly this attitude; always blame the other side for the events that have divided our island. I always looked up to Bir as he has always been fair; but the attitudes I mentioned above have finally pushed him into a corner. From this corner emerges a lion fighting for survival.