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[DT.]

The Chronicle of Monemvasia sheds ample light on this matter, enough to make the hairs of all "pure" Greeks stand on end.

Straw, clutch, straw break.

If some of you wish to ignore any trace of Greek ethnic cultural, linguistic and religious background from their GC persona than be my guest. I would only advise however to leave the country of Greece alone and not jump at any chance no matter how impossible or ridiculous to insult. The need to tear down every single victory and exaggerate every single defeat is a complex that some people here suffer from which I will never understand.

The same goes for those who insist on ramming Greece down everyones throats. You're constant references of greece having a hand in every single development the world has ever know is resulting in a picture of Forest Gump being painted for the country.

Bananiots mention of the chronicles.....as usual made in a dramatic "I've discovered the holy Grail" that proves you're all a bunch of gimps is a joke at best. Read below:


Exagerrations and errors
There are a number of errors and exaggerations in the Chronicle. For example, the city of Monemvasia was not built after the barbarians invaded Greece. In actuality, the city was constructed approximately four to five years (ca. 582-583) before the advent of the Avars and Slavs.[18] Another example entails the Corinthians' migration to the island of Aegina in the Saronic Gulf, which is contradicted by a correspondence (February 591 AD) between Pope Gregory the Great and Archbishop Anastasius of Corinth.[19]
From an archaeological viewpoint, the Chronicle of Monemvasia overstates the impact of the Avaro-Slavic invasions of Greece.[20] In Methana, there is no evidence of any widespread disruption of settlement patterns (this is also the case elsewhere in the Peloponnese).[20] The island of Kythera, on the other hand, was abandoned along with other coastal sites due to attacks conducted by one or more Slavic fleets.[20]
Despite its compelling narrative, the Chronicle is not an actual chronicle.[5] The text represents a compilation of sources involving Avars and Slavs and focuses on the foundation of the metropolitan see of Patras.[5] It is possible that the Chronicle was actually used in negotiations with the metropolitan of Corinth over the status of the metropolitan of Patras.[5]

[supporttheunderdog]

DT - a fair assesment.

There were no doubt Slavic incursions into what is now Greece but the most reliable genetic evidence tends to suggest that they had little impact on the gene pool and the lingistic evidence suggests they were in any evident taught Greek and absorbed by Greek Culture.

This can, for example, be contrasted with England, where the genetic evidence of Oppenheimer et al also suggests a stable population going back at least 6000 years, but where the language and culture have undergone profound changes, probably under the influence of what is known as Elitist ascendancy.

[Bananiot]

Looked it up in Wiki DT? Good effort but you should have scrolled a bit further down. Or up, even.

[DT.]

Looked it up in Wiki DT? Good effort but you should have scrolled a bit further down. Or up, even.

Wasn't wiki although I notice someone placed the same text in wiki.

Here are the sources


References

^ Kazhdan 1991, p. 445. The name Chronicle of the Peloponnesos was coined by Paul Lemerle.
^ a b c d Charanis 1950, pp. 141-142; Setton 1950, p. 515.
^ Charanis 1950, p. 142; Setton 1950, p. 516.
^ Charanis 1950, pp. 143, 516.
^ a b c d e f Curta 2001, p. 67.
^ a b c d Kazhdan 1991, p. 445.
^ Charanis 1950, p. 142.
^ Charanis 1950, p. 143.
^ Charanis 1950, pp. 143-144.
^ Whitby 1988, p. 125.
^ a b c d e Charanis 1950, pp. 147-148.
^ a b Geanakoplos 1984, pp. 274-275.
^ Setton 1950, p. 517; Curta 2001, p. 67.
^ a b c d Setton 1950, p. 517.
^ Gregory 2010, p. 169.
^ Charanis 1950, p. 163; Kazhdan 1991, p. 445.
^ Kyriakides 1947, pp. 93-97; Kazhdan 1991, p. 445.
^ Haldon 1990, p. 44, Footnote #10.
^ Whitby 1988, p. 125; Martyn 2004, Refer to Book 1, Section 26 (pp. 148–149).
^ a b c Mee, Patrick & Forbes 1997, pp. 90–91.
Sources

Charanis, Peter (1950). The Chronicle of Monemvasia and the Question of the Slavonic Settlements in Greece. 5. Dumbarton Oak Papers. pp. 139–166.
Curta, Florin (2001). The Making of the Slavs - History and Archaeology of the Lower Danube Region, c. 500–700. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9780521802024. http://books.google.com/books?id=mnSq1VNloGsC.
Geanakoplos, Deno John (1984). Byzantium: Church, Society, and Civilization Seen through Contemporary Eyes. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. http://books.google.com/books?id=a2-hSQAACAAJ.
Gregory, Timothy E. (2010). A History of Byzantium (Second Edition). John Wiley and Sons. http://books.google.com/books?id=gXCl9P0vKS4C.
Haldon, John F. (1990). Byzantium in the Seventh Century: The Transformation of a Culture. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9780521319171. http://books.google.com/books?id=pSHmT1G_5T0C.
Martyn, John R. C. (2004). The Letters of Gregory the Great. Toronto, Canada: Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies. http://books.google.com/books?id=HEe2gHWiYRUC.
Mee, Christopher; Patrick, Michael Atherton; Forbes, Hamish Alexander (1997). A Rough and Rocky Place: The Landscape and Settlement History of the Methana Peninsula, Greece: Results of the Methana Survey Project, sponsored by the British School at Athens and the University of Liverpool. Liverpool University Press. http://books.google.com/books?id=h6U0TgxfrXwC.
Kazhdan, Alexander, ed (1991). "Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium". Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium. Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780195046526.
Kyriakides, Stilpon P. (1947). ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΑΙ ΜΕΛΕΤΑΙ VI: ΟΙ ΣΛΑΒΟΙ ΕΝ ΠΕΛΟΠΟΝΝΗΣΩ [Byzantine Studies VI: The Slavs in the Peloponnese]. Thessaloniki: Etaireia Makedonikon Spoudon.
Setton, Kenneth M. (1950). The Bulgars in the Balkans and the Occupation of Corinth in the Seventh Century. 25. Speculum. pp. 502–543.
Whitby, Michael (1988). The Emperor Maurice and his Historian – Theophylact Simocatta on Persian and Balkan Warfare. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0198229453. http://books.google.gr/books?id=VAcAJfJP9KUC&hl=en.

[Lit]

The Chronicle of Monemvasia sheds ample light on this matter, enough to make the hairs of all "pure" Greeks stand on end.

Oh does it really, numbnuts? And the part where it states that the Emperor, the great Nikephoros, who led the successful reconquest effort and following the defeat of these Slavic tribes, what did the great Emperor do Bananiot? Well the Chronicles state that he repopulated those areas with Greeks from other parts of the Empire. Back to the Makedonija website you go for more propaganda material. And while you are there, take a look at their Rosetta Stone theory. LOL

[supporttheunderdog]

I think this article may have appeared at least in part in this post but it suggests that the data proclaiming Slavic races as the principal ancestry of Modern Greeks is based upon flawed, if not selective evidence.

http://modern-macedonian-history.blogsp ... greek.html

[Oracle]

Anyone who is familiar with the people of the Peloponnese would see their resemblance to the likes of Get Real! i.e. a typical Greek from any of Hellas’ many states; especially, the more southerly ones, where nature imposes darker looks upon the natives.

And anyone familiar with "Slavic" (good looks) would tell you how much they resemble Bananiot! No one would be silly enough to doubt his ancestry ...

[yialousa1971]

ZoC, Sabaton are a Finnish band....and the guy who made the video is a Serb....so your sarcasm is wasted on us.

we are not slavs re, wake up ANTHELLINES

Sabaton are from Sweden not Finland.

[ZoC]

ZoC, Sabaton are a Finnish band....and the guy who made the video is a Serb....so your sarcasm is wasted on us.

we are not slavs re, wake up ANTHELLINES

Sabaton are from Sweden not Finland.

is it true slavs can't tell scandinavians apart?

[AEKTZIS]

Yialousa I always thought they were swedish but then recently lots of people kept telling me they were finnish.....thanks for clering that up....