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[zan]

all I see thus far is a people who have no integrity ..... reliance on Turkey to create something that does not exist. crossing south of a ceasefire to get money from the enemy ..... where's the integrity in that?

And you guys crossing over to buy cheap clothing from your invaders is an act of charity I suppose

[Nikitas]

Just came across Erdoghans angry response to the TC strikes. He stresses how a salary of 5000 Euro is common in the north, while in Turkey even his closest aides do not make that much and "they get a 13th salary to boot".

This is the kind of derogatory talk mainland Greeks aimed at the GCs back in the 70s. Note the similarity here- Greece after getting us into a mess they then gloated in superiority. Same goes for the TCs, after decades of treating them like colonial subjects Turkey is now eager to rub their nose in it.

Erdoghan went on to point out that TCs must understand that Turkey has a strategic interest in the island "just like Greece has". Note the invocation of the other "motherland" and ponder on its purpose and meaning in the context of what is after all labor unrest, hardly a revolution!

And the cherry on the cake: he claimed that the unrest is in coordination with the RoC and accused the TC leadership of being apathetic. Presumably he wants TC policemen to go out there and break heads, so it would look more democratic than when the Turkish army and settlers do it.

[Kikapu]

Just came across Erdoghans angry response to the TC strikes. He stresses how a salary of 5000 Euro is common in the north, while in Turkey even his closest aides do not make that much and "they get a 13th salary to boot".

Erdogan shouldn't really single out poor Halil. I'm sure Halil earns his money working for Bayrak.!

[humanist]

Nikitas ..... You only have to have an open mind, remove emotion sit back and analyse the whole situation and the trough is right there staring you in the face. Well that has been my observation thus far.

It is interesting however that Greece has taken a very silent position on the Cypro for some years now.

Sometimes I wonder if the Cypro has been solved already and all the crossing openings the "talk" on unification if they are measures for integrating the two communities and easing the process and then the powers that be will announce the plan to re unify the Island. Not a bad strategy.

[ZoC]

Nikitas ..... You only have to have an open mind, remove emotion sit back and analyse the whole situation and the trough is right there staring you in the face. Well that has been my observation thus far.

It is interesting however that Greece has taken a very silent position on the Cypro for some years now.

until greece is ready to send a liberation force what's there to say?

[Get Real!]

Nikitas ..... You only have to have an open mind, remove emotion sit back and analyse the whole situation and the trough is right there staring you in the face. Well that has been my observation thus far.

It is interesting however that Greece has taken a very silent position on the Cypro for some years now.

until greece is ready to send a liberation force what's there to say?

Then their silence is guaranteed eternally!

[Nikitas]

Humanist,

Maybe you are right, the situation as it is now suits all the big players, Turkey, Greece, UK and they are willing to let it ride.

In the past, despite the rhetoric, neither Greece nor Turkey were ready to go to war over Cyprus. It was a fight by proxy with the occasional flare ups when one or the other side thought it could gain the upper hand.

But some undeniable facts are now evident. One is that GCs are the major force on the island. Entry to the EU underlined this fact, the discovery of offshore gas is another factor. These facts are not lost on the Turks. They would love to be rid of the problem.

The TCs have realised that partition comes at a cost. It is not the solution they had imagined, where they are given a bit of the island and left alone. They are definitely NOT left alone. And right next door they see that GCs do not have Greece on their heads. The GCs have been left alone and are better off without any "mother" to look after them. The strikes are simply bringing to the surface a simple demand by the TCs, they want to be like the GCs, independent and self reliant. It will take more than a few strikes to get there.

The first step would be to have a genuuine TC negotiating position on the solution of the problem. I feel sure that the majority of TCs do not give a flying pluck for confederation and the power to sign international agreements, but that is the line they toe in the talks because Ankara says so.

Erdoghan said he will call Eroglu to Ankara and ask him if he agrees with the strikers when they say "Turkey out". I wonder if Eroglu will have the spherical appendages necessary to say "Yeah, I agree".

[humanist]

Nikitas, he does not ..... what is even sader he does not have the intellectual witt to even negotiate a good deal, so until he goes there will be no solution as requested by UN aiming for end of year. The only thing that will solve it quicker is the first extraction of gas .... Turkey and the TC's will then see that this is for real and that may bring us a step closer.

The gas findings have cemented EU Cyprus relationship and partition is now out the question. The EU will view the matter as follows. If the TC's and Turkey want to take some of the winnings from the gas exploration ... by this I mean for Turkey is entry to the EU and for TC's there will be financial gains as would be applicable to all Cypriots.

The door is still open for individual TC's of course to gain from the benefits by returning to their properties in the free area.

[zan]

Humanist,

Maybe you are right, the situation as it is now suits all the big players, Turkey, Greece, UK and they are willing to let it ride.

In the past, despite the rhetoric, neither Greece nor Turkey were ready to go to war over Cyprus. It was a fight by proxy with the occasional flare ups when one or the other side thought it could gain the upper hand.

But some undeniable facts are now evident. One is that GCs are the major force on the island. Entry to the EU underlined this fact, the discovery of offshore gas is another factor. These facts are not lost on the Turks. They would love to be rid of the problem.

The TCs have realised that partition comes at a cost. It is not the solution they had imagined, where they are given a bit of the island and left alone. They are definitely NOT left alone. And right next door they see that GCs do not have Greece on their heads. The GCs have been left alone and are better off without any "mother" to look after them. The strikes are simply bringing to the surface a simple demand by the TCs, they want to be like the GCs, independent and self reliant. It will take more than a few strikes to get there.

The first step would be to have a genuuine TC negotiating position on the solution of the problem. I feel sure that the majority of TCs do not give a flying pluck for confederation and the power to sign international agreements, but that is the line they toe in the talks because Ankara says so.

Erdoghan said he will call Eroglu to Ankara and ask him if he agrees with the strikers when they say "Turkey out". I wonder if Eroglu will have the spherical appendages necessary to say "Yeah, I agree".

Over 100 NGOs told you different recently. Young Denktas told you differently.

Listen guys, this is an industrial dispute with a hand full of GC plants. That is the really you need. Dont get too excited.

[ZoC]

Humanist,

Maybe you are right, the situation as it is now suits all the big players, Turkey, Greece, UK and they are willing to let it ride.

In the past, despite the rhetoric, neither Greece nor Turkey were ready to go to war over Cyprus. It was a fight by proxy with the occasional flare ups when one or the other side thought it could gain the upper hand.

But some undeniable facts are now evident. One is that GCs are the major force on the island. Entry to the EU underlined this fact, the discovery of offshore gas is another factor. These facts are not lost on the Turks. They would love to be rid of the problem.

The TCs have realised that partition comes at a cost. It is not the solution they had imagined, where they are given a bit of the island and left alone. They are definitely NOT left alone. And right next door they see that GCs do not have Greece on their heads. The GCs have been left alone and are better off without any "mother" to look after them. The strikes are simply bringing to the surface a simple demand by the TCs, they want to be like the GCs, independent and self reliant. It will take more than a few strikes to get there.

The first step would be to have a genuuine TC negotiating position on the solution of the problem. I feel sure that the majority of TCs do not give a flying pluck for confederation and the power to sign international agreements, but that is the line they toe in the talks because Ankara says so.

Erdoghan said he will call Eroglu to Ankara and ask him if he agrees with the strikers when they say "Turkey out". I wonder if Eroglu will have the spherical appendages necessary to say "Yeah, I agree".

Over 100 NGOs told you different recently. Young Denktas told you differently.

Listen guys, this is an industrial dispute with a hand full of GC plants. That is the really you need. Dont get too excited.

yes, ffs calm down everyone. rumours that the tc pussies had grown some balls are totally unfounded.