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It is very sad to think, that when the people in the Arab world are on the streets demanding Democracy and Human Rights from their governments while they are being beaten up and killed, here in Cyprus, the RoC has been trying for the last 2 years with the present unification talks in offering the TCs True Democracy and Human Rights with no avail, because the TCs still demand undemocratic, Human Rights and International law violations to remain in place, in order to reach a settlement. What must the protesting Arabs think of the TCs demands, I can only imagine.!

Can this be really be happening or are we in the "Twilight Zone".??

So its only been 2 years? thanks for revealing the traps they have set us in the past and luckily enough we have avoided. Minority rights in a GC state is not what we want, if this is your version of "democracy" you can stick it where the sun don't shine.

There's only one kind of democracy in the EU and the west. It is not mine, but I'll take it over all the non democratic and Human Rights violations you crave over. Minority/Majority is only for those with a chip on their shoulders. It means absolutely nothing in the real world to the overwhelming majority of the population as long as everyone has equal rights. The easiest way to abolish such majority/minority terms on ethnicity, is to make 3 main political parties, Democrats, Republicans and Independents, or call them what ever you like, makes no difference, and let anyone join which ever political party they want based on their political ideology. Presto, you have done away with all your minority/majority concerns on ethnic level, because now, the majority and the majority are only the political parties and not the citizens. !:idea:

But I forgot, you don't want any solution....EVER.!

You said the last 2 years, what were they offering before that?

What if you do not trust the majority to have your best interests at heart due to the past and for that reason you would prefer to have a BBF so that both sides can administer their own states?

[Nikephoros]

Worthless Turkish Cypriots have not been engaged in honest work since 1964 when they decided to become muslim extremists boycotting Christian society and business with the slogan "Turk to Turk" to enter separatist enclaves. Since that time they have been controlled economically by mainland Turkish dole.

Sadly so many leftist Arab fags who don't consider themselves Greek like this Bananiot traitor among others take their pants off to any Turk making any accusation. They accept any Turkish claim, like allegation that isolation stemming from non-recognition of their illegal state destroyed their community's economic prospects, just to score points against the proud nationalists of their society. Such worms don't realize these Turkish Cypriot lizards decided on the path of no honest work the moment they thought enclaves were a good option.

Hopefully Turkey cuts their gravy train so we can have some entertainment.

[yialousa1971]

Worthless Turkish Cypriots have not been engaged in honest work since 1964 when they decided to become muslim extremists boycotting Christian society and business with the slogan "Turk to Turk" to enter separatist enclaves. Since that time they have been controlled economically by mainland Turkish dole.

Sadly so many leftist Arab fags who don't consider themselves Greek like this Bananiot traitor among others take their pants off to any Turk making any accusation. They accept any Turkish claim, like allegation that isolation stemming from non-recognition of their illegal state destroyed their community's economic prospects, just to score points against the proud nationalists of their society. Such worms don't realize these Turkish Cypriot lizards decided on the path of no honest work the moment they thought enclaves were a good option.

Hopefully Turkey cuts their gravy train so we can have some entertainment.

Don't forget GR and ZOC.

[Nikephoros]

Arabs of Cyprus/NeoCypriots/Cypriot-Cypriots are a majority of the "Greek Cypriot" population now, so I cannot name all the desperate losers by name. Now the Greek Cypriots who correctly consider themselves a smaller part of the larger Greek nation, are besieged by false leftist ideology everywhere and called fascists simply for not giving up their national identity or values, to appease some Koranimal trash invaders.

Newsflash: There are so many Turkish Koranimals on this forum! Do they treat any different the traitors or even trust them? How come Bananiot cannot live in the North? He still lacks balls and instead likes to preach about Cypriotist ideology, instead of walk the part. He knows he will be the same fishfood as the enclaved Greek Cypriots already are in the eyes of rapacious Turk nation and their Sandjak of Cyprus.

[DT.]

Can we now hear from someone that has visited the island at least once.

Racist idiots.

[Kikapu]

It is very sad to think, that when the people in the Arab world are on the streets demanding Democracy and Human Rights from their governments while they are being beaten up and killed, here in Cyprus, the RoC has been trying for the last 2 years with the present unification talks in offering the TCs True Democracy and Human Rights with no avail, because the TCs still demand undemocratic, Human Rights and International law violations to remain in place, in order to reach a settlement. What must the protesting Arabs think of the TCs demands, I can only imagine.!

Can this be really be happening or are we in the "Twilight Zone".??

So its only been 2 years? thanks for revealing the traps they have set us in the past and luckily enough we have avoided. Minority rights in a GC state is not what we want, if this is your version of "democracy" you can stick it where the sun don't shine.

There's only one kind of democracy in the EU and the west. It is not mine, but I'll take it over all the non democratic and Human Rights violations you crave over. Minority/Majority is only for those with a chip on their shoulders. It means absolutely nothing in the real world to the overwhelming majority of the population as long as everyone has equal rights. The easiest way to abolish such majority/minority terms on ethnicity, is to make 3 main political parties, Democrats, Republicans and Independents, or call them what ever you like, makes no difference, and let anyone join which ever political party they want based on their political ideology. Presto, you have done away with all your minority/majority concerns on ethnic level, because now, the majority and the majority are only the political parties and not the citizens. !:idea:

But I forgot, you don't want any solution....EVER.!

You said the last 2 years, what were they offering before that?

What if you do not trust the majority to have your best interests at heart due to the past and for that reason you would prefer to have a BBF so that both sides can administer their own states?

Once again you are showing us your lack of fully comprehending the written English language. I'm just using this present talks as an example which I stated "present unification talks" versus what is going on in the Arab world with the demonstration for Democracy in the last 2-3 weeks. I didn't want to go back 50 years just not to embarrass the TCs more for them not wanting Democracy for all that time, but you wanted to expose their refusal of Democracy for the last 50 years, then so be it..

AP gave you your state, and your plans were to be a racists state by violating the GCs Democratic and Human Rights and allowing Turkey to control it outright by making as many Turks as Cypriot citizens as it wanted. That's what happens when you don't agree to a Democratic and Human Rights kind of a settlement.

Basically, you cannot be trusted with "your" state, because in a BBF, both states will belong to all Cypriots, just like all 50 states in the USA belong to all Americans and anyone can live and work anywhere they wish and also vote and run for office within that state. That's what Democratic BBF is and not the racist Annan Plan you crave about, even after it's 7 years of being "Dead & Buried". For someone such as yourself who does not want a solution EVER in Cyprus, says a lot as to what the Annan Plan was all about that you loved so much and voted for, which was no solution for Cyprus, EVER.!

As I've stated, with 3 main political parties, you don't need to trust the majority ethnic group. Anyone can belong to which ever part they want to join based on their political ideology. There can be smaller parties too of course, just so that there's one for people like yourself, which no doubt will be the "National Front Party" (Racist Nazi Party). You being from the UK, you must remember the National Front.

I'm telling you, the best possible deal you are ever going to get is something what I proposed in my BBF plan, if you are lucky and accept while Turkey is occupying the north. If and when that situation changes, you will get far less than what I have in my BBF. Arabs are hungry for Democracy and Human Rights who are willing to die for it, and all you are asking for, are Democratic and Human Rights violations (on the GCs) for a settlement.!

[ZoC]

Worthless Turkish Cypriots have not been engaged in honest work since 1964 when they decided to become muslim extremists boycotting Christian society and business with the slogan "Turk to Turk" to enter separatist enclaves. Since that time they have been controlled economically by mainland Turkish dole.

Sadly so many leftist Arab fags who don't consider themselves Greek like this Bananiot traitor among others take their pants off to any Turk making any accusation. They accept any Turkish claim, like allegation that isolation stemming from non-recognition of their illegal state destroyed their community's economic prospects, just to score points against the proud nationalists of their society. Such worms don't realize these Turkish Cypriot lizards decided on the path of no honest work the moment they thought enclaves were a good option.

Hopefully Turkey cuts their gravy train so we can have some entertainment.

time u put a suppository up that slack, overused ass of yours... stop all this crap seeping out onto the forum.

[ZoC]

Worthless Turkish Cypriots have not been engaged in honest work since 1964 when they decided to become muslim extremists boycotting Christian society and business with the slogan "Turk to Turk" to enter separatist enclaves. Since that time they have been controlled economically by mainland Turkish dole.

Sadly so many leftist Arab fags who don't consider themselves Greek like this Bananiot traitor among others take their pants off to any Turk making any accusation. They accept any Turkish claim, like allegation that isolation stemming from non-recognition of their illegal state destroyed their community's economic prospects, just to score points against the proud nationalists of their society. Such worms don't realize these Turkish Cypriot lizards decided on the path of no honest work the moment they thought enclaves were a good option.

Hopefully Turkey cuts their gravy train so we can have some entertainment.

Don't forget GR and ZOC.

but do forget the inane, insignificant, ineffectual waste of space that is YIALOSER.

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Kikapu

Once again you are showing us your lack of fully comprehending the written English language. I'm just using this present talks as an example which I stated "present unification talks" versus what is going on in the Arab world with the demonstration for Democracy in the last 2-3 weeks. I didn't want to go back 50 years just not to embarrass the TCs more for them not wanting Democracy for all that time, but you wanted to expose their refusal of Democracy for the last 50 years, then so be it..

This is Kikapus type of response when he is caught out, who are you kidding past 50 years, of enosis, coups and akritas and you have the audacity to claim its all democratic, what a misguided fool you are.

AP gave you your state, and your plans were to be a racists state by violating the GCs Democratic and Human Rights and allowing Turkey to control it outright by making as many Turks as Cypriot citizens as it wanted. That's what happens when you don't agree to a Democratic and Human Rights kind of a settlement.

Rubber stamped by the UN and EU plus others including Greece, they are more trusted and qualified to know that democracy can come in different shades than you. You are just a mouth piece for GC propaganda and TCs demise.

AP gave you your state, and your plans were to be a racists state by violating the GCs Democratic and Human Rights and allowing Turkey to control it outright by making as many Turks as Cypriot citizens as it wanted. That's what happens when you don't agree to a Democratic and Human Rights kind of a settlement.

Get used to it we already have a TC state albeit on paper unrecognised but in reality alive and kicking. Please clarify your accusations about how exactly Turkey would turn Turks into Cypriot citizens as and when she wanted?

As I've stated, with 3 main political parties, you don't need to trust the majority ethnic group. Anyone can belong to which ever part they want to join based on their political ideology. There can be smaller parties too of course, just so that there's one for people like yourself, which no doubt will be the "National Front Party" (Racist Nazi Party). You being from the UK, you must remember the National Front.

Where you seem to go wrong is that you do not understand the dynamics here on the island today only ever having visited for a holiday. Cyprus has not developed politically to a degree where we can have mixed parties as there is no history to support that if elected they would treat both states equally, the trust is just not there this can only be developed over time and with experience that mixed partied are best for the whole of Cyprus. Lets test your theory lets ay we have mixed parties and one is elected the head of the party is a GC and there a few TC members, yet the head of government is a GC who adovocates policies outside of what the TCs originally supported how can they oust the prime minister when the majority of GCs in the party support him?

I'm telling you, the best possible deal you are ever going to get is something what I proposed in my BBF plan, if you are lucky and accept while Turkey is occupying the north. If and when that situation changes, you will get far less than what I have in my BBF. Arabs are hungry for Democracy and Human Rights who are willing to die for it, and all you are asking for, are Democratic and Human Rights violations (on the GCs) for a settlement.!

I have told you time and time again I rejected that plan because it was a disguised sell out, a plan of TC capitulation to GCs.....Id rather take my chances with Turkey than accept your plan.

[humanist]

all I see thus far is a people who have no integrity ..... reliance on Turkey to create something that does not exist. crossing south of a ceasefire to get money from the enemy ..... where's the integrity in that?