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Postby Me Ed » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:19 pm

halil wrote:Comments and criticisms are still engaged the TC and Turkey's press and public about Markel visit to south Cyprus.

here is the interesting comments from YAVUZ BAYDAR

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Merkel goes cynical on Cyprus

“We greatly appreciate your courage, creativity shown and initiative taken to solve the problem. We see that you are taking many steps and we also see that the Turkish side is not responding adequately to your steps.”


These are the words, if cited accurately by the Greek Cypriot press, of Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, during a historic (after 49 years by a leader of the country to the island) visit, expressed to Dimitris Christofias, president of (Greek) Cyprus.

To describe the message as “problematic” would be an understatement. No matter how much “damage control” Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, tried to accomplish, it has been unhelpful.

“The German chancellor does not need to be lectured on history,” was the remark made by Seibert. It may be true, but the fact remains that Merkel needs a lecture on diplomacy.

It was at first unclear what she meant when she used the phrase the “Turkish side.” North Cyprus or Turkey? But it seems clear now that Merkel had Turkey in mind when speaking in a manner that implied taking Christofias’ side, and it raises new questions on very basic matters.

There is no doubt Merkel had no idea that the two leaders on the island, Christofias and Derviş Eroğlu, would attend a critical meeting in Geneva on Jan. 26. The unfruitful UN-led talks have been going on for years, which led to clearly articulated frustration by Ban Ki-moon, the secretary-general of the UN, in a paper calling on the two leaders to come with a plan to Geneva. One may argue about whether this “threat” will work. But it is worth reminding Merkel that the process is still under the control of the UN, and not the EU.

Greek Cypriots profoundly dislike the UN-led process. It stands as a nuisance before them, since they enjoy the benefits and leverages that EU membership has offered. It has been the reason for calls for caution by other “wise” leaders in the EU that the less interfering the EU is in the process, the better the options are for a settlement.

At first reading, Merkel’s remark may seem proper. Those with a mechanical sense of legality may argue that “of course, Turkey should implement the protocol and open its ports,” etc. But, as a matter of fact it is based on the assumption that a UN-led process does not exist, and there are only two parties that keep negotiating.

After the “I am on your side” declaration by Merkel, the prospect for Geneva is very predictable. Christofias, feeling the backing of a powerful EU actor for the traditional maximalism that marked the UN process, will sing the same verses, as will his disappointed counterpart, Eroğlu. Clearly, there is no reason Ban will thank Merkel for her “constructive” efforts.

Naiveté aside, it becomes ever clearer that the German chancellor is playing it cynically. Hoping the world ignores the message of the 2004 referendum still echoing in collective memory and the pledges to lift the embargo on the north, she deepens the rift by openly using the deadlock between Turkey and Cyprus in order to push out the former, further away from the prospect of the EU. Distancing itself further from Ankara, instrumentalizing the Cyprus conflict was the line held by Paris, and is now openly joined by Berlin. There can be no other explanation for her seemingly erratic remarks in Nicosia.

Yet, the question is open for Berlin: What is the German strategy for Turkey and its negotiation process with the EU? There is no answer but only frustration for Turkey’s growing regional and international role, followed by emotionally motivated acts of desperation -- like the one in Nicosia.

Cyprus needs a unified push for a solution from within. That it will be used as bait to integrate Turkey into the EU is a pipedream, because it is based on the assumption that Turkey cannot survive politically and economically without it. Times change, and some powerful actors in the EU sadly drag behind it. The real need for stability and security in the eastern Mediterranean is to be met only by actively promoting a functioning model of cohabitation on Cyprus; not by favoring one side of the conflict.

To think that the Germans are engaged in any form of "damage control" over Merkels remarks really exposes how naive the Turks are.

Also to suggest that someone as competent and intelligent as Merkel has only given a one sided view is also dumb.

Merkel knew exactly what she was talking about.
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Postby askimwos » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:25 pm

Halil, the article you posted is very much aligned with Davutoglu's political line..which assummes that Turkey is powerful enough to force its way into the EU under its own conditions and rules. Davutoglu's assumption is that EU needs Turkey more than Turkey needs EU and hence the "threat" that Turkey will look eastwards if EU does not play by their rules.

The core EU (French-German axis) they simply will never endanger the EU aquis in order to allow Turkey in. For them its either you do whatever the EU tells you to do in order to harmonise or you are simply out.

The US and UK may indeed think that Turkey must join the EU in order to be kept on the west's side. At the same time though be sure that once Turkey crosses the line they will not hesitate to treat her as a new Iran or Iraq. The leaked US embassy documents which describe Davutoglu as dangerous confirm the above.

Taking all these into consideration my personal opinion is that Turkey with it's current neo-otthoman doctrine will soon find herself in a humiliating deadlock.

Times do change indeed and it seems that the balance is shifting in front of the Turkeys eyes...what is interesting though is that Turkey seems to be shooting herself in the foot. The Israel-Turkey conflict was the best present that Turkey gave to Cyprus especially in a period that Cyprus is pressing ahead with gas and oil exploration.

If I was the head of Turkeys Foreign Policy I would have handed in my resignation. The guy has managed to form a Greece-Cyprus-Israel axis that was unheart of a few years ago.
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Postby halil » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:58 pm

Political parties in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have also expressed their strong reactions against statements made by the German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Reminding that the Turkish Side has always fulfilled its responsibilities towards efforts aimed at reaching a solution to the Cyprus problem, issuing such statements without learning the background of the issue was inappropriate behavior for a politician.


Called on Mrs. Merkel to acknowledge the Greek Cypriot Side’s negative attitude and to better research the history of the island in order to understand the Cyprus issue. The negotiations process in Cyprus were being carried out under the auspices of the United Nations not the European Union.

“As a result the UN will be the arbitrator not Mrs. Merkel”

TRNC President Derviş Eroğlu has responded to statements made by the spokesperson for the German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Careless statements made by Merkel did not suit a country like Germany.

Speaking to the Skytürk news channel in Turkey, President Derviş Eroğlu said that the statements made by Merkel’s spokesperson proved that he did not know anything about the history of Cyprus or that the Turkish Armed Forces had intervened in Cyprus on the basis of its rights stemming from international agreements as a response to the coup carried out by the Greek Junta.

“We had informed Merkel prior to her visit to South Cyprus that we were ready to share our views on the Cyprus Problem” he said, adding however that they had failed to receive a positive reply.

German Chancellor instead had chosen to issue one-sided statements from an UN observation tower.

Explaining that Germany had played an important role in the Greek Cypriot Administration’s accession to the EU, Eroğlu said that the European Union had committed an international crime by doing this.

He added that the non-solution of the Cyprus Problem was the result of the Greek Cypriot Side’s unilateral EU membership.

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looks like on coming days Markel visit will be on the agenda of the TC's public............

what will come out from Geneva ( 26th january )................
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Postby wallace » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:02 pm

halil wrote:Political parties in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have also expressed their strong reactions against statements made by the German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Reminding that the Turkish Side has always fulfilled its responsibilities towards efforts aimed at reaching a solution to the Cyprus problem, issuing such statements without learning the background of the issue was inappropriate behavior for a politician.


Called on Mrs. Merkel to acknowledge the Greek Cypriot Side’s negative attitude and to better research the history of the island in order to understand the Cyprus issue. The negotiations process in Cyprus were being carried out under the auspices of the United Nations not the European Union.

“As a result the UN will be the arbitrator not Mrs. Merkel”

TRNC President Derviş Eroğlu has responded to statements made by the spokesperson for the German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Careless statements made by Merkel did not suit a country like Germany.

Speaking to the Skytürk news channel in Turkey, President Derviş Eroğlu said that the statements made by Merkel’s spokesperson proved that he did not know anything about the history of Cyprus or that the Turkish Armed Forces had intervened in Cyprus on the basis of its rights stemming from international agreements as a response to the coup carried out by the Greek Junta.

“We had informed Merkel prior to her visit to South Cyprus that we were ready to share our views on the Cyprus Problem” he said, adding however that they had failed to receive a positive reply.

German Chancellor instead had chosen to issue one-sided statements from an UN observation tower.

Explaining that Germany had played an important role in the Greek Cypriot Administration’s accession to the EU, Eroğlu said that the European Union had committed an international crime by doing this.

He added that the non-solution of the Cyprus Problem was the result of the Greek Cypriot Side’s unilateral EU membership.

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looks like on coming days Markel visit will be on the agenda of the TC's public............

what will come out from Geneva ( 26th january )................



EU had committed an international crime???? :shock: :shock: This guy comes right out of a comic book! The only international crime committed is the occupation of a sovereign country! Get your facts right 8)
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:07 pm

halil wrote:Political parties in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have also expressed their strong reactions against statements made by the German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Reminding that the Turkish Side has always fulfilled its responsibilities towards efforts aimed at reaching a solution to the Cyprus problem, issuing such statements without learning the background of the issue was inappropriate behavior for a politician.


Called on Mrs. Merkel to acknowledge the Greek Cypriot Side’s negative attitude and to better research the history of the island in order to understand the Cyprus issue. The negotiations process in Cyprus were being carried out under the auspices of the United Nations not the European Union.

“As a result the UN will be the arbitrator not Mrs. Merkel”

TRNC President Derviş Eroğlu has responded to statements made by the spokesperson for the German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Careless statements made by Merkel did not suit a country like Germany.

Speaking to the Skytürk news channel in Turkey, President Derviş Eroğlu said that the statements made by Merkel’s spokesperson proved that he did not know anything about the history of Cyprus or that the Turkish Armed Forces had intervened in Cyprus on the basis of its rights stemming from international agreements as a response to the coup carried out by the Greek Junta.

“We had informed Merkel prior to her visit to South Cyprus that we were ready to share our views on the Cyprus Problem” he said, adding however that they had failed to receive a positive reply.

German Chancellor instead had chosen to issue one-sided statements from an UN observation tower.

Explaining that Germany had played an important role in the Greek Cypriot Administration’s accession to the EU, Eroğlu said that the European Union had committed an international crime by doing this.

He added that the non-solution of the Cyprus Problem was the result of the Greek Cypriot Side’s unilateral EU membership.

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looks like on coming days Markel visit will be on the agenda of the TC's public............

what will come out from Geneva ( 26th january )................

Statements like this just show how ignorant the Turkish side is.

To suggest that Merkel does not know about the background and history of the Cyprus problem just highlights their sheer stupidity.

The realities of today are that Turkey, with its continued policy of ethnic cleansing particularly on the settler issue, has gone to great lengths to make a solution very difficult and Merkel knows it.

Also, their refusal to co-operate with the RoC on the Ankara Protocol and the opening of the port of Varosha has not gone unnoticed.

She is not stupid.
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Postby Jerry » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:22 pm

Halil, regardless of the reasons/causes of the Cyprus Problem the simple fact is that the “trnc” is an illegal regime recognised by no other country on earth- except it creator of course. When Turkey and the TCs can absorb this fact there may be some progress on a solution. Merkel was stating the obvious.
As for the importance of the EU to Turkey I suggest you study and try to comprehend the importance of the extracts below.


Foreign Trade Deficit rose from 27,4 to 48,6 Billions $, (i.e. + 77,3% year-on-year), during the first 9 Months of 2010 in Turkey, ANA reported.

But Turkey's trade Deficit is ... more than Threee Times Bigger ( + 300 % !) vis a vis Non-EU Countries, than vis a vis the EU : 37 Billions $ compared to only 12, during the first nine months of 2010 ! Thus, Turkish foreign Trade balance depends heavily on the EU, and exploits much more the Trade privileges EU has given to Ankara, than vis a vis any other part of the World... I.e., if EU stopped giving Trade Privileges to Turkey (since the 1995 Trade Union and the 1999 EU Negotiations for a closer link, f.ex. a Privileged Partnership), then, Ankara's Foreign Trade Deficit would be in an even Worse shape, probably heading towards another Crisis !

Capital flow in Turkey in the first 11 months of 2010 was posted as 4.05 billion USD.
68.6 percent of cash capital flow in Turkey was made by the EU countries in Jan-Nov. 2010.http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=68498
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Postby humanist » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:29 pm

So the T/C has all rights to be upset because Merkel did not even speak to any Turkish Cypriot officials and then she supports the ‘settlement’, if you don’t acknowledge the T/C officials then what ‘settlement’ do you support when you don’t even know who is on the other side of the fence.


May I remind you that you don't exist ... in the eyes of the world ... that is why you do not have recognition. The EU owes you nothing. Anything that you get should be appreciated. You cannot expect EU to acknowledge you because they recognise Cyprus as a whole Island as EU State obviously the President of Cyprus is the representative of the Country he got acknowledged.
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Postby Hermes » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:45 pm

askimwos wrote:If I was the head of Turkeys Foreign Policy I would have handed in my resignation.


Or shot myself.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:48 pm

Hermes wrote:
askimwos wrote:If I was the head of Turkeys Foreign Policy I would have handed in my resignation.


Or shot myself.

Yet, they hold Bagis (min for EU Affairs) in high esteem! :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:06 pm

Merkel criticizes Turkey on Cyprus peace efforts ...


Well what's new? Merkel criticises just about everything. Past headlines:
Merkel criticises death penalty for Saddam ...

Merkel Criticizes Pope ...

Merkel criticizes Hungary Gag Law ...

Merkel criticizes multiculticulturalism...

Merkel Criticizes Putin Over Khodorkovsky's Imprisonment...

Merkel sharply criticised Israel's decision to build new settler homes...

Merkel criticizes Iran, Syria during Mideast trip ...

Merkel criticises Deutsche Post CEO ...

Merkel criticises central banks ...

Merkel criticises 'Europe 2020' strategy ...

Merkel criticises Russia over Georgia regions...

Merkel Criticizes Russia for Treatment of Former Yukos Boss ...

Merkel starts her first official visit to the US by criticising Iran's nuclear

programme...

Merkel criticises EU's Barroso on food commitment...

Merkel criticises Guantanamo Bay...

Merkel criticises US over 'cheap money' crisis...

Merkel criticises Google for copyright infringement...

Merkel criticises FDP partner as coalition cools...

Merkel criticises banks for paying hefty bonuses to executives ...

Merkel criticises Sarkozy's Mediterranean Union plans

Merkel criticises scrapping of opera with violent Mohammed scene ...


And of course all those problems were sorted out after she criticised them weren't they? In the way she considered they should be?
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