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[demetriou_74]

1.So you are ashamed of yourself!!
2.The Turkish force went to Cyprus to protect the TCs.

do you not think that it was a 2-way conflict. i have yet to see any sane person randomly attack another human being for no apparent reason.

3.If GCs are Greek then TCs are Turkish, otherwise it is doublestandard![/quote] TC are turkish but they happen to be living on piece of land that is greek. there is no objection to them doing so since Cyprus is a civilisaed state, however my conflict comes when they try to claim it as their own.

can you justify these stements instead of spewing meaningless babble that you call a response.

[Turkey (( *]

1.So you are ashamed of yourself!!
2.The Turkish force went to Cyprus to protect the TCs.

do you not think that it was a 2-way conflict. i have yet to see any sane person randomly attack another human being for no apparent reason.

3.If GCs are Greek then TCs are Turkish, otherwise it is doublestandard!

TC are turkish but they happen to be living on piece of land that is greek. there is no objection to them doing so since Cyprus is a civilisaed state, however my conflict comes when they try to claim it as their own.

can you justify these stements instead of spewing meaningless babble that you call a response.[/quote]

Yeah, Cyprus is so civilised that TCs got killed there!! How civilised!! Of course no other human being attacks another without apparent reason, and that reason was to totally turn the island into a Greek population, just like GreekManiac supports.

[demetriou_74]

1.So you are ashamed of yourself!!
2.The Turkish force went to Cyprus to protect the TCs.

do you not think that it was a 2-way conflict. i have yet to see any sane person randomly attack another human being for no apparent reason.

3.If GCs are Greek then TCs are Turkish, otherwise it is doublestandard!

TC are turkish but they happen to be living on piece of land that is greek. there is no objection to them doing so since Cyprus is a civilisaed state, however my conflict comes when they try to claim it as their own.

can you justify these stements instead of spewing meaningless babble that you call a response.

Yeah, Cyprus is so civilised that TCs got killed there!! How civilised!! Of course no other human being attacks another without apparent reason, and that reason was to totally turn the island into a Greek population, just like GreekManiac supports.[/quote]

first of i am not Greek maniac so dont include us as one. secondly the greeks were not out for an all greek island. tit for tat there was friction between twoi groups, who happened to be of different origins. you hit me i hit you back twice as hard. this is how life goes. neither side dropped it so the Tc's called in the big guns to murder, abuse and rape their way to 38% of cyprus and 'protection' for the equally as violent turks



the only reason the turks got away without a blame was because the British were happy to let them keep the rebeling greeks down.

[Turkey (( *]

1.So you are ashamed of yourself!!
2.The Turkish force went to Cyprus to protect the TCs.

do you not think that it was a 2-way conflict. i have yet to see any sane person randomly attack another human being for no apparent reason.

3.If GCs are Greek then TCs are Turkish, otherwise it is doublestandard!

TC are turkish but they happen to be living on piece of land that is greek. there is no objection to them doing so since Cyprus is a civilisaed state, however my conflict comes when they try to claim it as their own.

can you justify these stements instead of spewing meaningless babble that you call a response.

Yeah, Cyprus is so civilised that TCs got killed there!! How civilised!! Of course no other human being attacks another without apparent reason, and that reason was to totally turn the island into a Greek population, just like GreekManiac supports.

first of i am not Greek maniac so dont include us as one. secondly the greeks were not out for an all greek island. tit for tat there was friction between twoi groups, who happened to be of different origins. you hit me i hit you back twice as hard. this is how life goes. neither side dropped it so the Tc's called in the big guns to murder, abuse and rape their way to 38% of cyprus and 'protection' for the equally as violent turks



the only reason the turks got away without a blame was because the British were happy to let them keep the rebeling greeks down.[/quote]

First, I included GreekManiac because you agree with him most of the time, which means you guys have similar ideas. I give my answer with yours; "You hit me I hit you twice as hard. This is how life goes" If that's the reason, then what the TCs did should be fine with you because that's your mentality. You just couldn't come up with something that is twice as hard as an Army. What do you expect the TCs to do?? It was a war, you raped , murdered and abused TCs too, that is what I hear demetre from people!! So that's what you got back!!

[ManoWAR]

. I only know what nationality i am and my nation is Cyprus.

My dear boy...
There is no "Cyprus Nation"! Cyprus is just an island, a republic!
The "Cyprus Nation" is a new creation! You will not find it nowhere in historic books!

Even in the constitution of the Cyprus Republic is writting about the two nations on the Island, the Greek (tha majority) and the Turks (the minority)

[Greekmaniac]

First of all the Greeks fought to have the British removed ,it was the TC that were recruited in the police to control the greek rebels , so i hope your not looking for sympathy.

[ChomskyFan]

First of all the Greeks fought to have the British removed ,it was the TC that were recruited in the police to control the greek rebels , so i hope your not looking for sympathy.

So true, TC's never complain about British Bases because they don't mind being a puppet state, like mainland Turkey.

[Greekmaniac]

THIS HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER FOR ALL THE OCCUPYING FORCES OF GREECE AND ALL TRAITORS OF THE GREEK STATE.

1 .The war of Independence 1821
2 .1832 The creation of modern Greece (john capodistria)
3 . Meyali idea is born
4 .1881 Thessaly and Epirus
5 .1897 Greece declares war lands troops on Crete (European powers intervene and save the Turks)
6 .1890 Greece moves to Macedonia ( European powers intervene Turkey receives money and small amount of land on thessaly border , First time in 100 years Greece gives up land to Turkey)
7 . 1912Greece declares war on Turkey Greece occupies thessaloniki
8 .Greek army moves towards Constantinople ( Eurpean powers intervene to save the Turks)
9 .1913 Greece goes to war with Bulgaria Greece gets Macedonia,Crete, and the Agean Islands.
10 .1913 WW1 the allies offer Smyrna Cyprus , and Constantinople to enter war
11 . WW1 ends the Ottoman empire comes to end Greece gets Thrace Smyrana and large part of western Anatolia 12 .1919 -22 the Greco-Turkish war ends in disaster for Greeks thanks to the back stabbing European powers Greece loses Smyrna
13 . 1939 WW2 Italy declares war on Greece and suffers a humiliating loss Germany comes to its assistance and has a very hard time conquering the stubborn Greeks
14 . 1947 Greece gets Dodecanese from Italy
15 .These were the last Greek speaking areas to be united with the Greek state leaving only Cyprus
16 . 1955 Greeks fight the British on the island of Cyprus for Enosis(EOKA)
17 . 1960 Makarios sells Cyprus out (needless to say European powers fuck us again)
18 .1963 Greeks fight for Enosis and the TC who have been recruited by the British forces
19 .1974 Greeks fight for Enosis and the TC who have been recruited by the British forces
20 . Eoka tries too reinstate the Greek government to its rightfull land
21 . Turkey uses Greek problems as excuse to invade a small island at its weakest point with US arms and a guarantee from the international community that they will no intervene Greece is held back by puppet regime .
21 .2005 38% of the the Greek island of Cyprus is occupied by the Turks
22 . As ive said Greece still remains in a state of war one day corrupt politicians will stop running the country and real men will take control.

Final note to occupying forces and traitors I want you to pay attention to the trend that has developed since 1821 Greece will unite all its people and land under the Greek state its just a matter of time .

[Saint Jimmy]

:lol:
OK, I will.

Let me ask you something else. Are those Cypriots who do not wish to be considered Greeks, permitted to do so? And if so, what are they, then? And if not, why the heck not?

Hey Jimmy, do you see any TC's on this board, sticking up for GC's with the same veracity as you stick up for TC's?

Its people like Jimmy who set the rest of us back in our ultimate goal.

I agree.

1. Νο. So?
2. Of course it is. And as long as we have any say in it, you won't get your way.
3. I agree too.

You can think we're traitors all you want, and scream it out loud even more. My philosophy didn't give anyone the excuse to kill thousands of innocent people, both TC and GC, nor did it divide my country. You have yourself to blame, along with your Turkish Cypriot and Turkish counterparts, for the things you're whining about now. I am still paying for the mistakes of your 'Cyprus is Greece' philosophy, and I think I'm entitled to react to it any way I want, thank you very much.

That's how it goes, my man: you make a mistake, you pay for it. And that's how it SHOULD go, too. And if you're going to stand there and tell me that we didn't make stupid mistakes, well, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to send you back to them history books you keep talking about. Demetriou is right, you guys do have a point. What you fail to acknowledge, however, is that you do not possess the absolute truth: 'they' have a point, too. There is no 'right' or 'wrong' answer. You are mistaking 'Cyprus is Greece' for the right answer. It's not. It's only part of the right answer. Like I say, Cyprus IS Greek, but not ONLY Greek. You have to live with that, sorry...

And by the way, you calling someone a traitor because of his completely plausible ideas, was yet one more mistake.

[Greekmaniac]

Jimmy I want to now what country existed on the island of Cyprus in 1959 and what did the population of Cyprus consider themselves at that time , what was there nationality? plaese educate me with historical knowledge