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So what would have happened if Enosis had been implemented?

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Postby Filitsa » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:18 am

Oracle wrote:I could bring up their European figurehead-ranking on shipping, but you might do a Southern Belle fainting on us ... :D


Southern belle fainting? Are you kidding? I'm from Hannah Dustin territory. :D
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Postby Filitsa » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:48 am

Oracle wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Oracle wrote:In case news is slow to cross over your corn-fields ....


Greece: Rising from the Ashes of Public Debt

Economic crisis not insurmountable

Its current economic slump notwithstanding, Greece has inarguably come a long way. Since the dark days of Nazi occupation, the country has taken giant strides to embrace modernity and join the league of developed economies. Besides emerging as an attractive tourist destination worldwide, the nation has shown remarkable dynamism in transforming itself into a knowledge-based economy and a hub of Information and Communication Technology (ICT). Most importantly, as a tribute to the sagacious Alexander’s legacy, Greece today boasts of being home to the second most hard-working populace in the world, according to a 2008 Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) study. The nation may be battling the worst economic crisis in its history, but as the mythological bird Phoenix will concur, it is entirely possible to rise from the ashes.


http://www.thomaswhite.com/explore-the- ... reece.aspx


In the choria, maybe. Doesn't Thomas White write travel guides? :wink:


Keeping the googlefarting to stuff you Yanks can understand and digest! :D


Thank you kindly. You've exhausted my mental energy, so I'm off to bed ... but please ... don't let that stop your ... googlefarting. :?
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:54 am

"athenians are the real greeks, the people up north aren't..."

Not exactly. My experience after living here for 36 years is rather the reverse. It is the genuine Athenians that are the true inheritors of the Ottomans and their ways and the provincials are the true Greeks.

Enosis, union, presupposes an action of at least two equal entities. If any of you think for one minute that the Athens elite considers any non Athenian equal on anything, you are fooling yourselves.

Enosis was a fairly risk free enterprise for territorial gain and political power by Greece. Have you ever heard anyone discussing what Cyprus might have brought to the nation as a whole after a union? Nope, that possibility was never considered and when you mention it today it causes laughter, the average Athenian cannot fathom that the Cypriot with his funny accent can possibly have ANY contribution to make to Greece. From that attitude you can more or less figure out what the consequences of Enosis would have been.

But history has its funny quirks. Last week a senior government official on Greek TV said: "let us forget about becoming like Sweden, we would be doing really well if we could become like Cyprus". He was talking financial management naturally.
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Postby AEKTZIS » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:19 pm

Nikita when I talk to Elladites about Cyprus they talk about the place with respect as if it is a place they should aspire Greece to become. Many Elladites are migrating to cyprus for work, the reputation of many mega-rich and influential Cypriot businessmen gives them the impression that we are a rich island with good financial management, far better than Greece's....and that is true in part.
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Postby Klik » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:27 pm

It is true because the foreign big countries don't care about the Cypriot population's wealth. They care about officially partitioning the island so as to create a mess. In Greece they care about destroying the population but they have misjudged them seriously. I predict by the end of the year Greece will have a turnaround in economy if they finally exploit all the natural resources that the big corporations want to take for peanuts...
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:58 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:Many Elladites are migrating to cyprus for work,

That’s a major problem we’ve got in Cyprus lately... as if all the other foreigners aren’t bad enough we’ve got an influx of bankrupt illiterate Greeks coming in! :evil:
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Postby AEKTZIS » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:08 pm

actually for your information Greek graduates are very well educated, they study in England and America, and in good universities abroad, then come back to Greece looking for work and cant find any in their sector. So what you get is incredibly well qualified graduates with masters degrees in engineering doing jobs like waitering or working in a supermarket. It is a very difficult situation, don't go labelling these people as bankrupt and illiterate as they are very well qualified.

And why would this be bad? If there are jobs in cyprus, who better to have taking them then fellow greeks, who SPEAK greek, share the same culture and would settle in finely in Cyprus.

http://www.sigmalive.com/simerini/news/education/263493
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:58 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:actually for your information Greek graduates are very well educated, they study in England and America, and in good universities abroad, then come back to Greece looking for work and cant find any in their sector. So what you get is incredibly well qualified graduates with masters degrees in engineering doing jobs like waitering or working in a supermarket. It is a very difficult situation, don't go labelling these people as bankrupt and illiterate as they are very well qualified.

If the Greeks posting on the CF are anything to go by (and I have met hundreds over the years) the great majority are pretty stupid! And we’re talking about the bilingual ones too! :lol:

And why would this be bad? If there are jobs in cyprus, who better to have taking them then fellow greeks, who SPEAK greek, share the same culture and would settle in finely in Cyprus.

What the fuck you talking about? I don’t understand a word these twits are saying! :?
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Postby AEKTZIS » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:02 pm

???

what dont you understand?
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:09 pm

The fact of the matter is that Cyprus Graduates are just as well skilled as Greek Graduates: they train at the same universities, but from what I have they too find there are few worthwhile jobs in Cyprus for Graduates, and they may end up wasting their skills until a teaching job comes up. Somebody once made the point to me that a young girl wityh a decent secretratrial ability is likely to be paid almost as a much as a graduate becuase there is an oversupply of graduates.
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