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Re: Query me this:

Postby insan » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:12 pm

Filitsa wrote:Why is it so difficult to be Cypriot?


It's impossible to be a Cypriot... u can only born as a Cypriot and may lead a life as a Cypriot... :wink:

However, there are people who weren't born as a Cypriot but culturally they r more Cypriot than who were born as a Cypriot... and there r people who were born as a Cypriot but culturally cannot be considered as a Cypriot because of their life styles, habits and personal characteristics do not reflect the typical or generally accepted basic Cypriot characteristics...
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:47 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Good Question.

GR seemingly has now problem, for which I applaud him, but he does not seem to want, to share his Cypriotnes with others, with whom he may well share a common ancestor, for which I don't.


GR is a breed unto himself. :D
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Re: Query me this:

Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:48 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Why is it so difficult to be Cypriot?


Because of the Turks who murder us and backstabbing Anglos who created the myth that Cypriots are not Greek.


Why do some Greek Cypriots believe this myth, Yialousa? And why is it unacceptable to them that there are sTurkish Cypriots?
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:54 pm

Cap wrote:I think most Cypriots have an identity crisis.
I dunno, maybe they're just embarrassed, maybe they feel the need to identify themselves with something bigger like the ancient Greeks, or likewise the Ottomans.
maybe Cyprus is just too small to be proud of.

But as with so many Cypriots marrying foreigners and producing multicultural offspring that 'Greek' and 'T***ish' identity is slowly fading away I think.


You won't find many Australians and Canadians claiming to be 'British' that's for sure.


If the father was from Cyprus and the mother from Greece, what are the offspring?
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Re: Query me this:

Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:02 pm

Piratis wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Why is it so difficult to be Cypriot?


It is not any more difficult than being Cretan or Athenian. In other words, not difficult at all.

The difficulty is in making Cypriots not Greek. And again, this is not any more difficult than trying to force Cretans or Athenians to stop being Greek. It is generally not easy to deprive people from their ethnic identity, especially when we are talking about an ethnicity as old as ours. (and I am referring about the main body of the population here, not small minorities that exist in Cyprus like they exist everywhere else)


Yet, Piratis, there are Cypriots who believe otherwise. Why?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:03 pm

Piratis wrote:
Cap wrote:Actually Piratis falls short I'm Afraid. Athens and Crete are PART and PARCEL of Greece, they fall under official Greek territory and government.
Cyprus on the other hand is independent.

In 1960 we were officially a republic.
If some Cypriots feel Greek, good for them, but that doesn't change the fact that they're Cypriot citizens.


Cyprus was forced to be "independent". Just like before we were forced to be part of the British empire and be "British citizens", and before that part of the Ottoman empire etc.

Our identity does not depend on what some foreign imperialists force on Cyprus. They can force Cyprus under their rule, either directly by making Cyprus part of their empire, or indirectly by giving to Cyprus some pseudo independence, but what they can't do is change our identity.


You stink of enosis, who says its dead, its alive and kicking in people like Piratis, Father Denktaş has always been right.
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Re: Query me this:

Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:03 pm

Oracle wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Why is it so difficult to be Cypriot?


By this, I take it you mean; "Why don't outsiders leave us alone when we declare what we are?"!

It's the foreigners who are confused. Not us Cypriots. Especially us Greek ones! :D


In part, yes, Oracle. The other part pertains to those Cypriots who buy into what outsiders tell them.
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:06 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:Piratis is spot on, bravo.


Piratis may be "spot on," but I'm considering you for my forum hero.
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:14 pm

Piratis wrote:
Cap wrote:You won't find many Australians and Canadians claiming to be 'British' that's for sure.


The difference here is choice. The Australians choose to have a separate country, just like they choose to have the British flag embed in their own flag, and the Queen of England as their own Queen.

On the other hand the Liverpudlians didn't choose to have a separate country so they claim to be British.

The people of Cyprus, like the people of all other Greek islands, choose to be part of united Greek state. But our choice was denied to us and we were forced to be a separate country bnnm because this is what suited the interests of certain foreign imperialists.


This may be true politically, but natioanlity and culture are not necessarily one and the same.
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:16 pm

Cap wrote:Actually Piratis falls short I'm Afraid. Athens and Crete are PART and PARCEL of Greece, they fall under official Greek territory and government.
Cyprus on the other hand is independent.

In 1960 we were officially a republic.
If some Cypriots feel Greek, good for them, but that doesn't change the fact that they're Cypriot citizens.


Again, culture and nationality are not necessarily one and the same.
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