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[ChomskyFan]

I like the gullability of some people on here!

All they are proposing is the implementation of the property provisions of the Annan plan, which is obvioulsy unacceptable to the GC's.

2. The return of properties must take place according to the proprietorship regime of the Annan Plan. That is, the equivalents must not be included in this. The properties that will be subject to return must be properties which have no equivalent (Translators note: These are properties given to Turkish Cypriots for the property they abandoned in the free areas of the Republic). And their return must be according to the criteria determining the identity of the proprietorship in the Plan.

Quite a nice PR stunt though....

[erolz]

I like the gullability of some people on here!

All they are proposing is the implementation of the property provisions of the Annan plan, which is obvioulsy unacceptable to the GC's.

You do not see that as a move in the right direction? Yes it's less than everything GC would like, but it also more than they have now and is being proposed unilateraly by the current TC admin, with no direct 'quid pro quo' bargaining or demands from GC or RoC in return. Is this not encouraging for those of us that wish to see a renuinted CYprus?

[ChomskyFan]

I like the gullability of some people on here!

All they are proposing is the implementation of the property provisions of the Annan plan, which is obvioulsy unacceptable to the GC's.

You do not see that as a move in the right direction? Yes it's less than everything GC would like, but it also more than they have now and is being proposed unilateraly by the current TC admin, with no direct 'quid pro quo' bargaining or demands from GC or RoC in return. Is this not encouraging for those of us that wish to see a renuinted CYprus?

Wow! Talk about balance! Subjective critical analysis at it's best there!

[erolz]

I like the gullability of some people on here!

All they are proposing is the implementation of the property provisions of the Annan plan, which is obvioulsy unacceptable to the GC's.

You do not see that as a move in the right direction? Yes it's less than everything GC would like, but it also more than they have now and is being proposed unilateraly by the current TC admin, with no direct 'quid pro quo' bargaining or demands from GC or RoC in return. Is this not encouraging for those of us that wish to see a renuinted CYprus?

Wow! Talk about balance! Subjective critical analysis at it's best there!

No that is what is called discussion. It's what we used to have here before your arrivial. It involves asking questions to gain a better understanding of someone elses persepective.

I am still waiting by the way

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=53365#53365

[Main_Source]

So less than half the people with there houses stolen will get them back...and some not for another 18 years or so? Is this the best we are going to see???

After the RoC has put themsleves out for TC with things like free healthcare, countless jobs, etc...we have only you see you brush these aside....but you expect us to jump around that only half the people will get there houses back...and most of them might not even live to see this happen.

[erolz]

So less than half the people with there houses stolen will get them back...and some not for another 18 years or so? Is this the best we are going to see???

At this stage it is not even clear you will see this.

....but you expect us to jump around that only half the people will get there houses back...and most of them might not even live to see this happen.

I do not expect you to do anything. I am trying to share my perspective as a TC on events past and present and better explore and understand GC perspectives.

[-mikkie2-]

Erol,

For me, the TC administration needs to annul the 'trnc' and return to the pre-1983 situation. I do not see the report in Volkan as anything more than rumour at the moment anyway. Volkan is not exactly the most balanced of publications which I am sure you will agree.

You have to realise that any proposition of this sort is being done to protect Turkey. This will be done at the expense of you know who!

[erolz]

Erol,

I do not see the report in Volkan as anything more than rumour at the moment anyway.

I pretty much agree.

Volkan is not exactly the most balanced of publications which I am sure you will agree.

I do not know Volkan or any of the T language papers here directly (as I do not read T) but I know of it's reputation / leanings. This 'review of the position of the TC admin on propoerty' has been reported in other places as I understand it, but I see it at talk / rumor at the moment as well. I sincerely hope that it moves from talk to action as I believe such a move is positive.

You have to realise that any proposition of this sort is being done to protect Turkey. This will be done at the expense of you know who!

I have little doubt that these moves have an element of helping to protect Turkey and increase the TC admins profile internationaly. I also think they have an element of genuine desire on the part of Talat and his colleagues in TC admin to 'make moves' towards ending / changing the status quo as it exists today and creating an environment move conductive to a lasting agreed settlement. Talat was elected on a 'ticket' of ending TC isolation and working for reunification without 'capitulating' totaly to GC demands. I believe this 'rumoured' initative is consistent with hwo and why he was elected by TC.

I do not see things in quite the same terms though re T interests and TC interests. To me it is not inevitable that T can only gain from TC loss. I think there are possibilites for both TC (and GC) and T to gain from finding an agreed solution for renuification.

[cannedmoose]

i would go and suck every blokes balls who helped if all land was returned to its rightful owners.

at the moment its just a suggestion but if its implemented

Now that's a promise... I bet Talat's waxing 'em up right now...

Since you've written that, I think that now constitutes a legal document... therefore you're legally bound to live up to your promise demetre... might I suggest you approach PIK for the worldwide rights to that one...

[demetriou_74]

i would go and suck every blokes balls who helped if all land was returned to its rightful owners.

at the moment its just a suggestion but if its implemented

Now that's a promise... I bet Talat's waxing 'em up right now...

Since you've written that, I think that now constitutes a legal document... therefore you're legally bound to live up to your promise demetre... might I suggest you approach PIK for the worldwide rights to that one...

i was going for a CNN EXCLUSIVE. i will try to find more info on this subject and print it off. will give a more serious and worthwhile response later on.