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Postby AEKTZIS » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:26 pm

exactly Simon...that is what I am getting at in my post following Humanist's....either that bolded part is steeped in irony or it is a misguided comment.
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Re: Greek community in Turkey fears for its survival

Postby lola-tulip » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Simon wrote:Greek community in Turkey fears for its survival

I for one am getting really sick and tired of all these piss-pot communities (minorities) all over the world causing massive problems in their respective countries of residence.

They are nothing but a national nuisance and I’d like to see the day when the world unites behind my idea of “Global Repatriation” to eliminate the myriads of problems stemming from all these half-baked trouble-making nincompoops!

There should be no such thing as a “Greek community in Turkey” any more than a “Turkish community in Greece”, or a “Pakistani community in Papua New Guinea”!

It’s ridiculous! Either embrace a country 100% or GET THE BLOODY HELL OUT OF THERE!


I would like to ask what advice Get Real! would give the indigenous, native "American Indians" regarding their survival as a minority. Should they not cause the uninvited 'British Remnants' political trouble?

Are not the Greeks of Constantinople fighting for their survival just like the few remaining GCs are concurrently fighting for theirs in the occupied north?
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Postby humanist » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:50 pm

humanist i LOVE the irony steeped in your post. i FUCKING LOVE THE IRONY. But im not sure if you realise your mistake, either

a) you are a satirical genius
b) you are mistaken

but i have not been on this forum long enough to know which one.

Iam specifically referring to what you call "COUNTRY OF ORIGIN" and "ACCEPTING THE CULTURE OF THE COUNTRY YOU ARE GOING TO"...perhaps you could be more explicit in exactly how you feel about the situation. really because im intrigued and i want to see if youre a genius or if you havent read the facts, but i feel your intentions are good as you preach p
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Postby humanist » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:21 pm

AEK
humanist i LOVE the irony steeped in your post. i FUCKING LOVE THE IRONY. But im not sure if you realise your mistake, either

a) you are a satirical genius
b) you are mistaken

but i have not been on this forum long enough to know which one.

Iam specifically referring to what you call "COUNTRY OF ORIGIN" and "ACCEPTING THE CULTURE OF THE COUNTRY YOU ARE GOING TO"...perhaps you could be more explicit in exactly how you feel about the situation. really because im intrigued and i want to see if youre a genius or if you havent read the facts, but i feel your intentions are good as you preach peace


AEK firstly who are you to determine if someone is a genius or not? Secondly you come across as a bit arrogant. But I will endeavour to respond.

A Country of origin as I have used it here is to describe where a person was born and spent a significant part of their life . Once again significant part leaves it up for interpretation.

I am an Australian who was born in Cyprus and was there for my first 12 years of life. That is one example. I therefore would say that my Country of origin is Cyprus. I fit into the mainstream Australian culture more than others and the traditions of this Country are more relevant to me than some of the traditional Cypriot ways of life that other Cypriot/ Australians live by.

I also find that some Cypriot / Australian's maintain some of their narrow minded and judgemental beliefs about differences. Their views on religion and if you are not a Greek Orthodox your a lesser of a human being, their views on Aboriginal Australians and their life style is judged, their views on divorce and the judgements and labels toward people who have divorced, their views on Islam and muslims in Australia, animal rights, their careless views on the environment, the views on homosexuality judgements and hate. These are just some of the examples.

I totally get what GR was saying in his post which I supported. I think in short is called "hey dude get with the program".

I also believe that culture is not static and that it grows and develops.

The second part of your highlighted text asks about the Country you ae going too.

we I think if am an Australian and am migrating to New Zeland then that would be the Country I am going too and therefore I believe it is my responsibility to adopt to the way of life and accept norms/ values of this Country.

Now the difference about Greeks in Turkey is that they are actually (in lack of a better word) native. They were invaded and to this end it makes their plight a bit different. As is the situation here in Australia with the Aboriginal population. Which may I ad are mistreated by most Greeks/ Cypriots and other groups of people.

So there you have it.
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:37 pm

thanks for the response, you should know my previous response was exaggerated, im not a judge of everything in this world but to me this is a SENSITIVE ISSUE which has not been dealt with enough respect and compassion by some posters, i.e. the advice that they should "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE" when it is their home and they are the natives. the last paragraph of your response was what i was looking for....you acknowledge they are the invaded party, not that they are simply a ethnic minority that do not belong there.
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Postby Lit » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:23 am

How were the Greeks of Gökçeada and Bozcaada scared away?
by Orhan Kemal Cengiz
14 January 2011, Friday

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-232424- ... engiz.html

What happened on Gökçeada (Imbros)?

We have two major islands at the mouth of the Dardanelles: Gökçeada and Bozcaada, or Imbros and Tenedos, as they are known in Greek. Many things have happened to the Greek inhabitants of these islands over a long period of time. At the time of the Treaty of Lausanne, there were very few Turkish inhabitants on these islands and their population comprised almost entirely of Turkish citizens of Greek descent.

Today there are no Greeks on Bozcaada, while Gökçeada’s Greeks were reduced from 7,000 to a few hundred. Today, mostly Turks who migrated from Anatolia live there. While these population rates changed, from exclusively Greek to exclusively Turkish, so have many “mysterious” things happened to “somehow” only the Greek inhabitants of these islands.

Don’t think that these “mysterious” things just stopped. The most recent event was on Oct. 29 of last year. “Unknown” people destroyed 78 graves in a Greek cemetery.

Was it a coincidence that the Cage plan (of Ergenekon) mentioned targeting Christian cemeteries? Like everything else that happened on these islands, of course this last attack was no coincidence.
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