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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:43 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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supporttheunderdog wrote:one thing that appears quite possible is that the Myceneans who invaded c1400 BC were acting no differently to the Ottoman Invaders of 1571: its just they were Greek, so invasion and conquest was OK.


They didn't invade, you dork! They had been trading with the original people in Cyprus with whom they already shared ancestry.


Shared common acestry? From where did these people arrive from then? Or was is simultanouse evolution of Mycenians all over the Med? :?


I've already explained the migrations. The sea people were trading all over this part of the Med for thousands of years. To and fro. Across all the, now, known/identified as Greek world and, presently temporarily, occupied Greek world.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:06 pm

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AEKTZIS wrote:The answer is clear, I thought you would see that through my question!!!!

Cant you see that through asking my question, I am challenging you to find something unique to cypriot culture??? BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE THERE IS A UNIQUE CYPRIOT CULTURE, IT IS ALL INHERITED EITHER FROM HELLENIC OR TURKISH CULTURE

I can only speak for the greek side but i cant find anything uniquely cypriot part of our customs.


I am sorry bruv but I am only the decendents of the workers of cyprus, so perhaps now you can answer my question without putting it back to me.

A more educated man then simply a "cypriot worker" would point out that the GC dialect is different than main land greek.... and that within the GC state, Main land greek is being encouraged ahead of the GC language/dialect........ and further more there several shared words between TC and GC that are Alien to each mother lands are actually part of the way that pre seperation '63 '68 and '74 cypriots speak. But hey what the fuck do I know know I am just a left over ottoman, and thus Cypriot worker



"...and further more there several shared words between tc and gc that are alien to each mother lands.."


what are these words that you speak of, most likely Hellenic, that were picked up by the tc population.
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:03 pm

DTA wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:The answer is clear, I thought you would see that through my question!!!!

Cant you see that through asking my question, I am challenging you to find something unique to cypriot culture??? BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE THERE IS A UNIQUE CYPRIOT CULTURE, IT IS ALL INHERITED EITHER FROM HELLENIC OR TURKISH CULTURE

I can only speak for the greek side but i cant find anything uniquely cypriot part of our customs.


I am sorry bruv but I am only the decendents of the workers of cyprus, so perhaps now you can answer my question without putting it back to me.

A more educated man then simply a "cypriot worker" would point out that the GC dialect is different than main land greek.... and that within the GC state, Main land greek is being encouraged ahead of the GC language/dialect........ and further more there several shared words between TC and GC that are Alien to each mother lands are actually part of the way that pre seperation '63 '68 and '74 cypriots speak. But hey what the fuck do I know know I am just a left over ottoman, and thus Cypriot worker


The dialect argument is weak. The Cretan dialect is similar to Cypriot in many ways. There are dialects all over Greece. There are muslims near Trabazon who speak an ancient Greek dialect that sounds more like Cypriot Greek than it does demotic Greek.
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:44 pm

exactly, to me the dialect "argument" is non-existant....it is a null point. anyone who claims it to be a separate language clearly does not know enough about the greek language and linguistics in general.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:43 pm

Language has become a political tool in the hands of Turks. Hence their threats of imprisonment for using other languages. In this way, they have Turkified "Turkey" at the expense of much older dialects. They are employing the same tactic in Cyprus.

Unfortunately, Turkish is one of the harshest sounding languages in the world and the turkey-bird call is good mimicry. :D
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:41 pm

Oracle wrote:Language has become a political tool in the hands of Turks. Hence their threats of imprisonment for using other languages. In this way, they have Turkified "Turkey" at the expense of much older dialects. They are employing the same tactic in Cyprus.

Unfortunately, Turkish is one of the harshest sounding languages in the world and the turkey-bird call is good mimicry. :D


Thats why you all love turkey for christmas. Mass slaughter IMO :evil:
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:42 am

...if the staunchest view of the status quo is broken
a new perspective is found, broader serving the betterment

...in kind; does not meen "Greek" or "Turk", but
that Greeks and Turks unite for Universal Principals.

...Greece stands with us welcoming the Turks into the EU
as Cypriots we follow in a belief that our contribution will be a BBF
that can be emulated; a People as Persons as well as Individuals

...Language is a political tool, it is the weapon of Imperialists.
indeed; think, a State transparent to languages able in all because
they choose to. whatever you call them, they have the edge through
their ability to communicate, and to process Information.

...we have as this island's dwellers a monumental decision to make:

stay the course: define the debate as "Greek" or "Turk", leave them
at odds forever, dismiss everything else for a later date.

enter the future: where within the State exists National Assemblies.
with them a recognition of the minorities which are their electors too.

...please read my manifesto.
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Postby Klik » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:09 pm

"Η πατρίδα ειναι το πολυτιμότερο, αγιότερο και σεβαστότερο αγαθό"
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:55 pm

«Μένω εκστατικός μπροστά στο όραμα της Ελληνικής αρχαιότητας.»

«Θέλω να δημιουργήσω μιάν Ελλάδα από τα μέσα μου.»

«Ό,τι είναι η καρδιά και ο νους για το σώμα, είναι η Ελλάδα για την ανθρωπότητα.»

«Ο καθένας πάνω στην τέχνη του ας είναι Έλληνας, αλλά να είναι.»

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Postby Silenus » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Language has become a political tool in the hands of Turks. Hence their threats of imprisonment for using other languages. In this way, they have Turkified "Turkey" at the expense of much older dialects. They are employing the same tactic in Cyprus.

Unfortunately, Turkish is one of the harshest sounding languages in the world and the turkey-bird call is good mimicry. :D


Thats why you all love turkey for christmas. Mass slaughter IMO :evil:

There's a saying in Greek...
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