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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:30 am

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Get Real! wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:I am a cypriot. ive never heard of that song. nor do i really give a shit about the useless point you are trying to make about some bullshit which has flawed logic.

"If i were a cypriot"....gimme a break

Dude... your music is alien, your blue flag is alien, and the way you write Greek is alien to a true indigenous Choirokitian Cypriot like me!

You're just a Greek weirdo! :lol:

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Dont gimme that bullshit pretending like youre some neolithic prehistoric cypriot...a true cypriot.....bullshit.

That makes you part of the 0.000001% population of cypriots....you speak greek so suck on that....is that alien to you??

Actually, there’s no such thing as “Greek”!

These “Greeks” are just bastardized Slavs crossbred with Mongols…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus23213.html


And what are you then, a new Turk. 8)
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:35 am

AEKTZIS wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:I am a cypriot. ive never heard of that song. nor do i really give a shit about the useless point you are trying to make about some bullshit which has flawed logic.

"If i were a cypriot"....gimme a break

Dude... your music is alien, your blue flag is alien, and the way you write Greek is alien to a true indigenous Choirokitian Cypriot like me!

You're just a Greek weirdo! :lol:

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Dont gimme that bullshit pretending like youre some neolithic prehistoric cypriot...a true cypriot.....bullshit.

That makes you part of the 0.000001% population of cypriots....you speak greek so suck on that....is that alien to you??


Ignore GR hes the local village idiot (Choupis). :twisted:

Heres one of his videos:-

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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:05 pm

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AEKTZIS wrote:call me whatever you want, I am not a "wannabe"...I am not a fascist or a nationalist, just because I have my own opinion which doesnt agree with yours or that of the politically correct, and because i was raised to love my heritage.

why do you call me a pseudo-cypriot??? I am incredibly proud of being a cypriot, my great uncle was Evagoras Pallikarides, WOULD YOU CALL HIM A PSEUDO-CYPRIOT TOO???

No, I call you lot confused little puppies with the IQ of a Tamarin!

Tell me something… do you sometimes wear a pleaded white skirt and pompom shoes, and march up and down the living room singing…

“Tha baro to doufeki mou!”

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Did you mean 'pleated' GR?

Happy New Year btw. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:08 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:DT that sounds like a totally logical assessment.

I am proud of my roots as a Greek, sometimes people get the impression I am a nationalist / fascist / whatever, but I also dont agree with ELAM or Xrysh Augh or people like that. I just feel pessimistic and I dont support a BBF but I dont believe that any solution will really work.

I am kind of really pessimsitic about that. i hope im wrong


Referring to the highlighted sentence; are thus for partition?
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Postby ZoC » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:14 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:how about you give me an example of true cypriot culture then? one that has no relation to greek or turkish culture


observe everyone; an example of a uniquely cypriot cultural trait... denying the island has any indigenous culture of its own, divesting it to either the culture of greece or turkey.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:18 pm

Klik wrote:BBF? Honestly? A comprimised solution? A partition in disguise?

Unitary state with strict measures (to avoid extreme actions from any side) is the only solution.


That is the best thing you have written Klik. However, these strict measures are the problem. Lets say you can disarm (both sides) the extremists, but how will you be able to 'cleans' their minds? You find a way and I will support you 100%. :lol:
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Postby Klik » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Klik wrote:BBF? Honestly? A comprimised solution? A partition in disguise?

Unitary state with strict measures (to avoid extreme actions from any side) is the only solution.


That is the best thing you have written Klik. However, these strict measures are the problem. Lets say you can disarm (both sides) the extremists, but how will you be able to 'cleans' their minds? You find a way and I will support you 100%. :lol:


First I'll respond to the other discussion about Cypriot language and Greek DNA...

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v17/ ... 8120a.html

The genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%

In particular, the presence of a modal haplotype coming from the southern Balkan Peninsula and of its one-step derivates associated to E3b1a2-V13, supports a common genetic heritage between Sicilians and Greeks.



STANFORD UNIVERSITY & UNIVERSITY OF PAVIA RESEARCH ON ANCESTRAL DNA
Summary:

1) The DNA make-up of today's Greeks is 99.5% white. The study cliams that today's Greek has 99.5% the same DNA make-up as as the white Greeks of ancient times.

2) Contrary to beliefs by many in Turkey and certain Slavic nations of ex-Yugoslavia, Greek DNA has not been influenced, nor altered, by the mixture of Slavic or Turkish DNA, even though Ottomans ruled a large part of Greece for 400 years.

3) Out of a sample of 925 modern-day Greek DNA, only 0.4% exhibited non-white DNA.

4) To a large extenet, Greeks of the ancient time "transfered" their DNA to other parts of Europe through their conquests. The study showed that, today, Greek DNA is most similar to: a) Italian DNA, b) French DNA, c) Spanish DNA, d) Turkish DNA.

5) The DNA of Italians in modern day southern Italy is the closest match to the DNA of their Greek neighbors.


As for the languages.

First of all, there's ETEOCYPRIOT. Which means REAL CYPRIOT. The original habitants. Who were not massacred by the Mycaeneans, nor the Assyrians or Phoenicians who came here earlier and neither by the Egyptians who followed.

The Eteocypriots created an alphabet/syllabary of their own with the help of the Mycaeneans and there's evidence for that (search Cypriot Syllabary).
A traditional -ending of Eteocypriot was -ou. And we still use it today, plus we had a few towns that end with -ou(now -ous) eg Amathou, Morphou... plus we still say "korou" :lol:
ArcadoCypriot is the dialect, or idiom, we speak today. ArcadoCypriot is spoken in "proud" Pelopponisian towns, similar to Cretan pride. If you ask them why they don't speak modern Greek*, they will either tell you that it's the proper Greek language they speak or they might even punch you or in Crete they could have stabbed you a few years back :D
* As for modern Greek, it's a wrong language actually. The 'katharevousa' was the last actual Greek language. Modern Greek is a very recent reform because people didn't bother to figure out the accents :roll: Modern Greek has too many foreign words, which wasn't the fact with 'katharevousa', which was something Korais had achieved with a group of people.
Anyhow, the Greek language, in whatever form, has been ever present. EteoCypriot was still used even during Alexander the Great's time. I think it was under the Romans that the language disappeared for good, in spoken language. Cyprus' Greek dialect was influenced by EteoCypriot.

As for the language not being the same, go to Larisa and try to understand what the fuck they are talking about :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now back to you denizaksulu...
I made a response on the 'solutions' forum on the thread on a unitary state, you can find it there.
The biggest complication is language. When you figure what language pleases both sides (it used to be Greek just fine for everyone i remind you), then you can create a unitary government. Of course all illegal settlers must leave before anything can be done.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:17 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:one thing that appears quite possible is that the Myceneans who invaded c1400 BC were acting no differently to the Ottoman Invaders of 1571: its just they were Greek, so invasion and conquest was OK.


They didn't invade, you dork! They had been trading with the original people in Cyprus with whom they already shared ancestry.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:47 pm

Oracle wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:one thing that appears quite possible is that the Myceneans who invaded c1400 BC were acting no differently to the Ottoman Invaders of 1571: its just they were Greek, so invasion and conquest was OK.


They didn't invade, you dork! They had been trading with the original people in Cyprus with whom they already shared ancestry.


Shared common acestry? From where did these people arrive from then? Or was is simultanouse evolution of Mycenians all over the Med? :?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:39 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
AEKTZIS wrote:call me whatever you want, I am not a "wannabe"...I am not a fascist or a nationalist, just because I have my own opinion which doesnt agree with yours or that of the politically correct, and because i was raised to love my heritage.

why do you call me a pseudo-cypriot??? I am incredibly proud of being a cypriot, my great uncle was Evagoras Pallikarides, WOULD YOU CALL HIM A PSEUDO-CYPRIOT TOO???

No, I call you lot confused little puppies with the IQ of a Tamarin!

Tell me something… do you sometimes wear a pleaded white skirt and pompom shoes, and march up and down the living room singing…

“Tha baro to doufeki mou!”

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Did you mean 'pleated' GR?

Happy New Year btw. :lol:

I plead your pardon Deniz... :lol:
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