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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:47 pm

Had the Cypriot forces not shot down a few HAF planes, bringing reinforcements after Turkeys intervention, no doubt things might have been a bit different.

Sad that some new forumers are unaware of some important facts.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:53 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Had the Cypriot forces not shot down a few HAF planes, bringing reinforcements after Turkeys intervention, no doubt things might have been a bit different.

Sad that some new forumers are unaware of some important facts.


Really Deniz, is that what you think? Turkey "intervened"; by killing/raping several thousand GCs in a matter that, even from what you imply above, was purely an internal "civil war" amongst Greeks? (Which ignored TCs until this "intervention".)
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:00 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Had the Cypriot forces not shot down a few HAF planes, bringing reinforcements after Turkeys intervention, no doubt things might have been a bit different.

Sad that some new forumers are unaware of some important facts.


Really Deniz, is that what you think? Turkey "intervened"; by killing/raping several thousand GCs in a matter that, even from what you imply above, was purely an internal "civil war" amongst Greeks? (Which ignored TCs until this "intervention".)


'Shut up' O (sorry). the nastiness did not begin till after the planes were shot down. You know that. At the time in was an intervention under the Treaty of Guarantorship. What happened later is a different matter which I do not condone one iota. :oops:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:09 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Had the Cypriot forces not shot down a few HAF planes, bringing reinforcements after Turkeys intervention, no doubt things might have been a bit different.

Sad that some new forumers are unaware of some important facts.


Really Deniz, is that what you think? Turkey "intervened"; by killing/raping several thousand GCs in a matter that, even from what you imply above, was purely an internal "civil war" amongst Greeks? (Which ignored TCs until this "intervention".)


'Shut up' O (sorry). the nastiness did not begin till after the planes were shot down. You know that. At the time in was an intervention under the Treaty of Guarantorship. What happened later is a different matter which I do not condone one iota. :oops:



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Postby Cap » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:22 am

AEKTZIS wrote:BRAVO STA PALIKARIA THS ELDYK

I am proud of the address he gave, no Greek-Cypriot, whatever their political views, can ever say bad about ELDYK. They fought like lions for Cyprus, for Hellenism, and we should be eternally grateful for their sacrifice they gave.


Yes they did, I have to give credit there.

'ELDYK proved to be the most efficient and best organized military unit for the defence of Cyprus, inflicting paramount losses on the Muslim invaders estimated to 2,000 dead men. (Note: ELDYK was comprised of only 450 newly recruited men, that had just arrived in Cyprus. They were armed with light semi-automatic infantry weapons M1 carbines, and with absolutely no support from artillery, tanks, nor any other mechanized means to assist them wage warfare.'
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:26 am

These fascists will now tell us that ELDYK fought against the coupists ... and they are not doing it because of ignorance I guess, exept for AEKTZIZ bloke, who should read Klerides's "My Deposition" and he will find all the answers there he wants, that is, if he really wants to find answers. He asks:

where is your source. I need a source to believe this is "From official records" unless you are sitting in an office surrounded by thousands of official government and military documents.


AEKTZIS, I have a library many people would be proud of, if this makes you feel any better. Let me fill you in a bit more, if you are open minded you might learn some historical facts which would be good for you. On July 9, Georgitsis and Kompokis held a meeting in Nicosia which was attended by all the officers that would lead the coup against Makarios. It was decided that the coup should be postponed because the units were not ready for it and because there was the dnger of Turkey intervening. On top, Constantinos Papayiannis, the second commander of ELDYK, asked that ELDYK should not participate in the coup for political reasons. Georgitsis informed Athens that in the event of a coup Turkey would legitimately invade Cyprus, according to the treaty of guarantees. Ioannides, who led the junta after the ousting of Papadopoulos in the fall of 1973, was adamant that the coup should go ahead. ioannides accepted however, that the role of ELDYK in the coup should be reduced to securing Nicosia International Airport. The time for the coup was also changed, from the evening to 08:30.

The above from the Greek Parliament: Cyprus Files, page 75-76.

As I wrote earlier, the final orders were given during a meeting at the camp of ELDYK in the morning of July 13. More on this can be found in Mpitos Ioannis book "Apo tin prasini grammi stous 2 Attiles".
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:25 am

I am clearly talking about the sacrifice made by 18-20 year old KIDS for the sake of Cyprus, a land for which they were ready to sacrifice themselves as Hellenes and as patriots, not through an obligation to defend their land as native Cypriots. I admire that and I hail them as heroes.

Without recognition for their bravery, instead you slander these guys as traitors. You mention to me the superiors and their involvement with the coup; how they were directly involved. Without the sacrifice of these kids, who knows how much more of Cyprus Atilla would have taken? You are telling me those that fought for Cyprus were responsible for their actions in the coup? Or was it their superior officers? According to you, "Officers of ELDYK, Greek officers....those that count".....Oh ok, so let's completely forget about anything ELDYK ever did for the grace of Cyprus. As if this detracts from the actions they took to save Cyprus from the invaders...

These were just kids who fought for their patrida and did an honourable thing when they were being traitored and left with no support, no arms and no allies.

In fact, I bet you are one of these people who, when you see Eldykarioi in Cyprus today, just frown and call them "Poustokalamaraes" or something like that....
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:13 am

AEKTZIS wrote:In fact, I bet you are one of these people who, when you see Eldykarioi in Cyprus today, just frown and call them "Poustokalamaraes" or something like that....

Yeah, that would be me! :D
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Postby AEKTZIS » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:26 am

You sound proud of that, ΝΤΡΟΠΗ ΚΑΙ ΑΗΔΙΑ
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Postby DTA » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:51 am

AEKTZIS wrote:You sound proud of that, ΝΤΡΟΠΗ ΚΑΙ ΑΗΔΙΑ


Now you are attacking GR. While you fly a greek fag ... i mean flag as you avatar... what exactly have you to do with Cyprus??
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