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[Pan]

Let's say the Greeks on Cyprus were all Muslim, but still wanted to unify with Greece, although that situation would probably never happen, would Turkey still have invaded? I'm just curious if the Greek Cypriots were mistreated by Ottoman to Turkish politics simply because the majority of people were Christian, What role does Islam play in Turkish politics? I know the political system is secular..

edited to fix spelling errors.

[Turkey (( *]

That idea is ridiculous but however it is an idea.Well the question would be, would the GCs still kill TCs?? I am curious if the TCs were mistreated by GCs politically simply because the majority of the TCs were Muslim!!


The Islam plays in Turkish politics:

Islam is not used as it should be in Turkey.Politicians often use it so they can get votes and shut peoples' mouths who are against them!! An example is if somebody came up saying you are not doing this right, the politician would say no but Quran says like that, the criticizing guy would have to shut up as he would not be able to critisize Islam because religion is not critisized, it is an old writing. The only blockage to these type of politicians has been the army. If we(the Turks) are like this(secular and modern), I think we owe it to the Army and its founder(Ataturk)

[Pan]

Don't you think it's a bit impossible for a country to be democratic, secular and have a Muslim population? To me that sounds very problematic to the Turkish nation.

[Murtaza]

Pan

sorry but you know nothing, All religion is against secularism. Yes, christianity also against it.

And religion always played a role, Isnt makarious a priest? did you ever heard a imam becomed PM of Turkey?

So It looks like GC is more religious than Turkey and Turkey is more secular than ROC.

[Turkey (( *]

Impossible is nothing Pan. Turkey CAN be Secular, Democratic and have a Muslim population. The Turkish Nation believes this so it can do this. Now you may either support us or try to destroy us. You support us, in the future when we are powerful we will have good relations, but if you try to destroy us we WILL answer you back!! There are a LOT of people who are secular, democratic and Muslim in Turkey, I don't know if you know any but I have a bunch. If you go to Turkey and say"hey, everybody is wearing a scarf" then you don't know much about the issue itself. Because there is the extreme Islamic scarf and the Anatolian scarf. The Islamic ones are tight and close the hair and Anatolian ones are just a tradition, it is how the Anatolian woman are.That's all from me for now.Any more questions you wanna ask??

[Turkey (( *]

By the way I forgot to say, those extreme Islamic scarfed people will take off their scarf when this government goes off. Believe me, the only thing about those scarfs is that they try to come closer to the govt so they can get money and jobs. It is political It is crazy...Everything is political!!!

[Murtaza]

By the way I forgot to say, those extreme Islamic scarfed people will take off their scarf when this government goes off. Believe me, the only thing about those scarfs is that they try to come closer to the govt so they can get money and jobs. It is political It is crazy...Everything is political!!!

Turkey,do you live in Turkey? All think is not political.

[Turkey (( *]

By the way I forgot to say, those extreme Islamic scarfed people will take off their scarf when this government goes off. Believe me, the only thing about those scarfs is that they try to come closer to the govt so they can get money and jobs. It is political It is crazy...Everything is political!!!

Turkey,do you live in Turkey? All think is not political.

Not at the moment, I am going to Turkey next week. And it is very rare when it is not political!!

[Pan]

Actually yeah this guy said

Pan
sorry but you know nothing, All religion is against secularism. Yes, christianity also against it.
And religion always played a role, Isnt makarious a priest? did you ever heard a imam becomed PM of Turkey?
So It looks like GC is more religious than Turkey and Turkey is more secular than ROC.

Greek Cypriots are probably more religious then Turkey, the thing is though I'm not talking about Christianity I'm talking about Islam.

[Murtaza]

Actually yeah this guy said

Pan
sorry but you know nothing, All religion is against secularism. Yes, christianity also against it.
And religion always played a role, Isnt makarious a priest? did you ever heard a imam becomed PM of Turkey?
So It looks like GC is more religious than Turkey and Turkey is more secular than ROC.

Greek Cypriots are probably more religious then Turkey, the thing is though I'm not talking about Christianity I'm talking about Islam, Mohammad was politician, whereas Jesus Christ wasn't he said love your enemies and forgiveness. But the way Islam was developed was for domination and conversion and the Islamic empire grew so fast because of this, killing and converting paganists and even Christians, Christians follow the teachings of the prophet not selected by God, therefore Christians preach falsehood and that is why God let Jesus die on the Cross, in the view of Islam. Also many Muslims believe that conniving Christians censored the coming of Mohammad in the bible.

Well, Muhammet is leader of his people, He didnt beginned It as a leader, He was a normal people, He and his people fleed from mecca because of discrimination against them. He didnt failed like jesus. Muhammed also said, My god forgive them(for unbelievers), when people are stoning him.

Islamic empire is growth so quick because their enemies are Iranians and Byzantium, both of this empire lost their energy, They cannot resist energic Arabs. When arabs meet with Turks, It is not easy for them to conquer Turks, and they couldnt conquer all Turkish lands.

Just think after 1400 year of Islam, there were still christians at the heart of Islamic lands, Arabia. There are still some people at iran believe old religion.

How many muslim stayed at Spain, they destroyed at 100 year? or how many natives believe their old religion ? How many year Europeans are destroyed all their religion and converted them to Christianity?

In fact reality is, Christian was devoloped by weapon, where christian ruled, all of other religions are mostly destroyed. do you think, christian treat pagans better than Muslims? Or jews better than muslims?

To saying they make mistake is to easy way to evade.


Christians follow the teachings of the prophet not selected by God, therefore Christians preach falsehood and that is why God let Jesus die on the Cross, in the view of Islam.

You told, you investigate Islam, and I think you are lying, acording to Islam, Jesus didnt die.