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Will Turkey survive another Christmas?

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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:34 pm

Bananiot wrote:Fools, you do not realise that if Turkey goes down, Cyprus will go down with it.

Didn't I say you've got Turkish blood? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:39 pm

Bananiot wrote:For a start Turkey is not weakening. Turkey has become extremely important to the one super power and global regulator, so to speak. Economically, socially, militarily, Turkey has been gaining in strength and importance over the last 20 years, since the fall of the eastern block.

Extremely important? :lol: Isn't that relative? :lol:

Who doesn't think their country is “extremely important”?

Didn’t I say you’ve got Turkish blood? :wink:

The USA will never allow Turkey and Israel to become foes.

You mean Israel will no longer allow the US to keep Turkey as a friend...
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Postby boulio » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:44 pm

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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:59 pm

Bananiot wrote:Venizelos made a mistake, says the litle minnow. You fool, he did the best damage control under the circumstances, but still, the joke of the century must be:

Venizelos made a mistake which allowed Turkey to grow ...


Still, you cannot deny (I see) Venizelos' mistake is partly to blame why Turkey was allowed to expand and become the superpower you thrive on, so that it was enabled, eventually, to invade us!

So why repeat the same mistake, and capitulate, once more to Turkey so that they expand even more? An even bigger superpower! Is that what turns you on?

Let's go back in time and see what we would have lost if we had done what YOU wanted from the time of the Annan plan if not before!

We would never have had the security of the backing of the EU in our liberation struggle.

Apostolides would never have received his confirmation that his land was his own and entitled to compensation enabling thousands upon thousands of other GCs to gain confidence that their homes are theirs for evermore - and entitled to compensation until restitution and return is possible.

The Turks would not have been denied Direct Trade from RoC borders ...

... and I'm sure there are many other 'minor' gains which YOU would have signed away because Venizelos is your hero! :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:07 am

It seems the lessons of 1919-23 and the Mikri Asiatiki Kataklysmos has taught some 'Greeks' no lessons at all. You mess with Turkeys 'interests' and you get (rightly or wrongly ) invaded.

Fesuphanallah, ne vurdum duymaz insanlar. :roll:
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Postby DT. » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:30 am

denizaksulu wrote:It seems the lessons of 1919-23 and the Mikri Asiatiki Kataklysmos has taught some 'Greeks' no lessons at all. You mess with Turkeys 'interests' and you get (rightly or wrongly ) invaded.

Fesuphanallah, ne vurdum duymaz insanlar. :roll:


Off course the Greeks have learnt a lesson from 1919......keep together lads, don't spread out too much! :lol:

Smyrni and the med are just fine....what the hell would we want in Ankara?
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:50 am

Another lie they tell in schools and church gatherings (katixitiko). The Greek army was fighting against the irregulars (tsettes) all that time while the Turkish army was preparing at the back to launch its main attack. The Greeks decided to attack and beat the Turkish army before it got fully armed and reorganised under Kemal. They could simply not wait for it to attack first, after it was fully armed and organised. Either way, the writing was on the wall.

However, for our bash patriots, the invasion of Turkey was fine and the Greek army simply rained flowers on the Turkish villages and towns. Turkey and Cyprus were invaded for the same, more or less reasons. Too bad, the Greek invasion of Turkey failed and the Turkish invasion of Cyprus succeeded.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:31 pm

I think we have a further insight into your style of thinking, Bananiot.

You believe the Greeks were wrong to try and reclaim their lands, occupied by Turks, in the 1920s; and so NOW you believe we are wrong to try and regain occupied Cyprus!

Right! Because history repeats itself and only Turks will be victorious!

Is it not possible this different approach we seek (be it "tricking" the EU - how clever we must be!) might just win out where war-ing lost in the past?

(Perhaps, this approach might just stand a chance if people like you don't keep wanting to sign-away Cyprus at every agreement they stick under our noses!)

Via war or peace; perhaps it's just wrong to seek back Turk-occupied territories, full stop?
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:53 pm

Gul prepares his flock for Turkey's carve-up ... :D



PresidentGül emphasizes unity on a trip to Southeast Anatolia while stressing that the diversity of Turkey should not be perceived as a threat. But his visit to the Diyarbakır mayor's office is criticized by the country’s main nationalist party because of the bilingual signs in the building


The Diyarbakır Municipality welcomed President Gül on Thursday with banners that read 'Welcome' in both Kurdish and Turkish. DHA photo
President Abdullah Gül has emphasized the importance of national unity during a visit to Diyarbakır, but he was criticized by the country’s main nationalist party for a meeting he held with a local official.

Speaking at a dinner with local businessmen in Diyarbakır late Thursday, Gül focused on unity, but said diversity should not be perceived as a threat.

“We are all pieces of a huge nation. There are differences in a big nation. However, we should see [our] diversity as richness,” Gül said. “If we see those differences as a threat, there may be problems.”

But Nationalist Movement Party, or MHP, criticized Gül for visiting Diyarbakır Mayor Osman Baydemir at his office, where both Turkish-language and Kurdish-language banners welcomed the president.

“It is an uncomfortable development that the president is visiting [the Diyarbakır] mayor’s office, which has bilingual sign boards, and encouraging the separatists, who recently came up with separation scenarios,” MHP chief Devlet Bahçeli, said in a written statement late Thursday.

Referring to the National Security Council, or MGK’s, recent declaration about the bilingual demands of Kurdish politicians, Bahçeli said the president had sabotaged that statement.

“MGK’s statement said ‘attempts to change the understanding of one flag, one nation, one motherland, one state and the fact that the official language of the Republic of Turkey is Turkish will not be accepted.’ With the president’s visit to the Diyarbakır mayor’s office, that statement has been undermined,” Bahçeli said.

Gül’s trip to the predominantly Kurdish city comes amid discussions on “democratic autonomy” and bilingualism after the Democratic Society Congress, or DTK, an umbrella group for pro-Kurdish organizations, outlined a proposal two weeks ago for an autonomous administration in the region. During his meetings in Diyarbakir, the president emphasized the need for unity, while embracing the cultural diversity of Turkey.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-12-31
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Re: Will Turkey survive another Christmas?

Postby runaway » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:08 pm

Oracle wrote:Good luck to the Kurds in their quest to liberate their lands from the invaders. :D


You are contradicting yourself. You had said that land belonged to Armenians. Now you claim it is Kurdish. :? Kars cannot be both Armenian and Kurdish. Ignorance has no limits bastardo O, the old, fat, ugly, hairy, evil lady.
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