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Postby Oracle » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:19 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:Thank you for this

1) I have always been happy to reconsider my position on the basis of aobjective eviddnce - I said as much some time back.

2) I have always condemned racism and have never agreed with Eugenics.

3) However as I understand it this particular study concentrated on the Greek Speaking Cypriot populace and makes little reference to the Turkish speaking Cypriots (by which I exclude the post 1974 settlers who are Turkish speaking Turks) so, unless I have mis-read it, it neither supports nor disproves any theory relating to the closer genetic links between the "GC" and "TC" on the one hand and with the so called mother lands on the other, where as the 1992 Study at least contained some comparative data, albeit probably limited (which does NOT appear to be discredited by this study).


Deniz's 1992 study was discredited for the small population sample of a pre-selected environmentally determined condition (thalassemia). We already know these markers converge over few generations.Plus a few more matters relating to the recent advancements in genetics (it's on the forum, but I don't have inclination to search tonight).

This present study (2009) is far more all-encompassing than appears after superficial evaluation as per Deniz.

Might dig up some more stuff tomorrow if you are still interested in supporting racism, But I have more to say that Humans are all genetically the same apart from their migratory differences and linked cultural stuff. I've posted tables with markers which are 100% different between TCs and GCs.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:26 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Oracle wrote:So, have the racists like Bananiot, supporttheunderdog and Denizaksulu finally realized that migratory markers can confirm historical and migration tracks of Man - who is represented by only ONE race - but can not be abused for their political, segregationist agendas?

Because, being ONE race, it is down to our cultural practices and moral integrity, upholding of accepted mass/majority norms, as to whether we are better or lesser Human beings and not whether we have blue eyes or brown!


I thought it a bit rich of O to accuse others of Racism, bearing in mind the bile that pours out of her about the British and the Turks.


Don't be so bigoted that you view criticism of countries which have carried out untold harm to Cyprus as simple as "racism". My hatred of Turkey is far worse than simple "racism". It's not their human genes which make them barbarians, but their cultural practices. They are pure evil and the enemy to the survival of my people in their own homes and land. For this, I wish Turkey a speedy demise.
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:28 am

Oracle wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Thank you for this

1) I have always been happy to reconsider my position on the basis of aobjective eviddnce - I said as much some time back.

2) I have always condemned racism and have never agreed with Eugenics.

3) However as I understand it this particular study concentrated on the Greek Speaking Cypriot populace and makes little reference to the Turkish speaking Cypriots (by which I exclude the post 1974 settlers who are Turkish speaking Turks) so, unless I have mis-read it, it neither supports nor disproves any theory relating to the closer genetic links between the "GC" and "TC" on the one hand and with the so called mother lands on the other, where as the 1992 Study at least contained some comparative data, albeit probably limited (which does NOT appear to be discredited by this study).


Deniz's 1992 study was discredited for the small population sample of a pre-selected environmentally determined condition (thalassemia). We already know these markers converge over few generations.Plus a few more matters relating to the recent advancements in genetics (it's on the forum, but I don't have inclination to search tonight).

This present study (2009) is far more all-encompassing than appears after superficial evaluation as per Deniz.

Might dig up some more stuff tomorrow if you are still interested in supporting racism, But I have more to say that Humans are all genetically the same apart from their migratory differences and linked cultural stuff. I've posted tables with markers which are 100% different between TCs and GCs.


I have never supported racism!
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Postby runaway » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:37 am

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Oracle wrote:Out of respect for Kafenes, my one true indisputable Cypriot, I'm going to take some leave, now :(


fuck off


Runaway - In the context of what is wrong with Kafenes that's offensive! Now you fuck off!


I don't know who kafenes is and I have no idea what is wrong. As an enemy supporter, you may want to fuck off too.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:50 am

runaway wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:Out of respect for Kafenes, my one true indisputable Cypriot, I'm going to take some leave, now :(


fuck off


Runaway - In the context of what is wrong with Kafenes that's offensive! Now you fuck off!


I don't know who kafenes is and I have no idea what is wrong. As an enemy supporter, you may want to fuck off too.


All this fucking off and none of you have the decency to consider that poor runway has potantially no one to fuck off to. :lol:
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Postby runaway » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:30 pm

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:Out of respect for Kafenes, my one true indisputable Cypriot, I'm going to take some leave, now :(


fuck off


Runaway - In the context of what is wrong with Kafenes that's offensive! Now you fuck off!


I don't know who kafenes is and I have no idea what is wrong. As an enemy supporter, you may want to fuck off too.


All this fucking off and none of you have the decency to consider that poor runway has potantially no one to fuck off to. :lol:


Are you O's fucker? Such a stomach you've got :?
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:41 pm

Oracle wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Thank you for this

1) I have always been happy to reconsider my position on the basis of aobjective eviddnce - I said as much some time back.

2) I have always condemned racism and have never agreed with Eugenics.

3) However as I understand it this particular study concentrated on the Greek Speaking Cypriot populace and makes little reference to the Turkish speaking Cypriots (by which I exclude the post 1974 settlers who are Turkish speaking Turks) so, unless I have mis-read it, it neither supports nor disproves any theory relating to the closer genetic links between the "GC" and "TC" on the one hand and with the so called mother lands on the other, where as the 1992 Study at least contained some comparative data, albeit probably limited (which does NOT appear to be discredited by this study).


Deniz's 1992 study was discredited for the small population sample of a pre-selected environmentally determined condition (thalassemia). We already know these markers converge over few generations.Plus a few more matters relating to the recent advancements in genetics (it's on the forum, but I don't have inclination to search tonight).

This present study (2009) is far more all-encompassing than appears after superficial evaluation as per Deniz.

Might dig up some more stuff tomorrow if you are still interested in supporting racism, But I have more to say that Humans are all genetically the same apart from their migratory differences and linked cultural stuff. I've posted tables with markers which are 100% different between TCs and GCs.


I do not support or deny any of the links. As I said Eugenics, haplogroups etc are not my forte. I posted the link which was discussed earlier on the forum. I only searched for it as there was a mistake in the name.
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