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[Oracle]

Turkey's extreme reactions are a sign of its fear!



Kurdish journalist jailed to 138 years in Turkey
Dec 30 2010 2:44PM

Turkish court on Thursday sentenced a Kurdish journalist to 138 year in jail over a series of articles deemed as pro-terrorist propaganda, Anatolia news agency reported.

Emine Demir, former editor of the Kurdish-language Azadiye Welat newspaper, was sentenced for each of 84 issues of the daily in 2008-2009 which the judge said contained propaganda in favour of the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

http://www.thenewage.co.za/6880-1020-53 ... key_report

[B25]

Fools, you do not realise that if Turkey goes down, Cyprus will go down with it. Years of school and church brainwashing have taken thier toll on bananiots.

Could you please elaborate? Why you think this?

The only thing i see is Turkey weakening, but that seems to be offensive to you and we all know why.

However, you input would be appreciated.

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[paliometoxo]

the kurdish are really scaring the turks... a taste of what they are doing in cyprus.. hahahaha kala na pathoun oi malakes :@

its not so good now is it turkey?? people are playing your own game and you dont like it.

[Cap]

So who's arming the PKK freedom fighters?

[insan]

Good luck to the Kurds in their quest to liberate their lands from the invaders.



Turkish president seeks to calm Kurdish tensions
TURKEY | 30.12.2010

Kurds in Turkey have been asserting their culture and language
The Turkish president is set to travel to the main city of his country's Kurdish minority on Thursday in a bid to defuse tensions over a recent push by Kurds to assert their culture, language and rights.

Turkish President Abdullah Gul is set to make a one-day visit to Turkey's main Kurdish city, Diyarbakir, on Thursday. The trip comes as political tensions continue to rise over an initiative launched by the country's main Kurdish party for greater rights.

The presidential visit, which appears to have been hastily arranged, is being seen as crucial to defusing political tensions in Turkey, which have been heightened by the initiative.

"I think he will look for ways to calm things down," political scientist Cengiz Aktar told Deutsche Welle. "As it is, I think we are again going back to this very belligerent rhetoric of the Kurdish issue. So again we are heading towards a period of dialog."

In addition to meeting with local state officials and businessmen, Gul was also expected to meet with the mayor of the Diyarbakir, Osman Baydemir, who is one of the leading figures in the Kurdish initiative launched earlier this month, which calls for democratic autonomy and the right to use the Kurdish language in aspects of public life, including in education.

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"I am putting it very clearly, those who want to bring discord to this nation are the enemy of 73 million people," Erdogan said. "The artificial discussion of the last few days is a dirty game and evil plot of the terrorist organization and its extensions. My people will not fall for this plot, they'll spoil the game."

The terrorist organization Erdogan referred to is the Kurdish rebel group the outlawed PKK, which has been fighting the Turkish state for greater Kurdish rights since 1984. For now they've called a unilateral ceasefire.


"What happened to the promise of solving this problem, and the promise that mothers won't cry anymore," Demirtas asked. "Were you expecting a BDP which will kneel before you and beg?"

Tensions were further ramped up when the leader of the far-right National Action Party, Devlet Bahceli, warned that the very existence of Turkey was at stake.

"This is a nasty plot hatched by those who want to change the governing structure of Turkey, and to divide the Turkish nation into two, with a separate flag. This will for sure divide our nation," Bahceli said.

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Ahjead of his trip, President Gul tried to play down expectations, saying it was just a routine visit. But with tensions rapidly escalating, the trip is expected to get a lot of media attention.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14742945,00.html

Will you survive after the next Zionist movement? Most probably not; because of the big disappointmet you'd face, cause u a heart attack...

PKK leader: Israel is helping Turkey to destroy us 22.9.2010
By Itai Anghel, Haaretz Israel

Only then, having caught my breath, did I begin to realize where I was. In retrospect, having visited the nearby Kurdish villages bombed by Turkish-Israeli drones, I do not understand why they agreed to let an Israeli with any sort of technological equipment get near them.

"You know," sighed Karayilan, "it is really a big mystery to me. Because more than any other people in the world, I would have expected Israel to understand and identify with us. After all, you, who have experienced the Holocaust, massacres, expulsions and persecution, now see our people, the Kurdish people, experiencing that same fate. Everyone in this area - Syrians, Turks and Iranians - wants and is trying to destroy us, and you, of all people, are the ones providing them with the weapons to destroy us."

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/mi ... ey2948.htm

[Oracle]

Will you survive after the next Zionist movement? Most probably not; because of the big disappointmet you'd face, cause u a heart attack...

What next Zionist movement? You seriously think Israel will extend its borders into Cyprus? Lame.

PKK leader: Israel is helping Turkey to destroy us 22.9.2010
By Itai Anghel, Haaretz Israel

Only then, having caught my breath, did I begin to realize where I was. In retrospect, having visited the nearby Kurdish villages bombed by Turkish-Israeli drones, I do not understand why they agreed to let an Israeli with any sort of technological equipment get near them.

"You know," sighed Karayilan, "it is really a big mystery to me. Because more than any other people in the world, I would have expected Israel to understand and identify with us. After all, you, who have experienced the Holocaust, massacres, expulsions and persecution, now see our people, the Kurdish people, experiencing that same fate. Everyone in this area - Syrians, Turks and Iranians - wants and is trying to destroy us, and you, of all people, are the ones providing them with the weapons to destroy us."

I don't think you've interpreted that quite correctly. He's talking about indirect help because Israel used to sell drones to Turkey - probably one of the things which will change in the future.

This further down from your article:

But since the 1980s, from the moment you tightened your relationship, and your military cooperation, with Turkey, you have been considered here to be among those who systematically assist in our oppression and eradication.

I wonder if Israelis are at all aware of the use that is made of the weapons and training they provide to Turkey."

Alliances have been changing ...

Israel Reportedly Training Kurdish Forces

by Avi Yellin

According to recent media reports, Israeli military and intelligence agents are currently operating in Iraqi Kurdistan. Their primary role, according to reports, is to train elite Kurdish commandos in guerrilla warfare and anti-terror tactics. The Kurds - whose country is currently occupied by Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Syria - are reportedly again, after many years, accepting Israeli assistance in their struggle for independence.

[humanist]

Bananiot

Fools, you do not realise that if Turkey goes down, Cyprus will go down with it. Years of school and church brainwashing have taken thier toll on bananiots.

Bananiot how come is it you are only concerned about the human rights and citizen rights of the TC's community in Cyprus? How come you feel so strongly as to believe that Kurdish people do not have the same rights as TC's as a minority in a larger community context? Perhaps you can provide some information so as not to leave me making unfair judgemengts on your contributions on this forum.

You appear very one side minded .... same issues in Turkey as in Cyprus, two minority groups wanting their rights but you are only supporting the so called TC cause.

[Bananiot]

For a start Turkey is not weakening. Turkey has become extremely important to the one super power and global regulator, so to speak. Economically, socially, militarily, Turkey has been gaining in strength and importance over the last 20 years, since the fall of the eastern block. The USA will never allow Turkey and Israel to become foes. Those that have raised the previously dreaded Israeli flag after the recent events when the Israeli commandos killed the nine Turkish nationals, praying for a war to break out between the two countries, live on cloud nine. A serious nation would never formulate its policies on the one off event. Failing to understand that it is our side that needs solution is tantamount to condemning Cyprus to oblivion. Venizelos, who was a thinking giant, realised this and only a few years after disaster in Asia Minor, signed a treaty of friendship and non aggression with Turkey. Millions of Greeks were lost then and millions more were uprooted from their places, where Greeks lived from the dawn of civilisation. Yet, Venizelos did not hesitate to grasp the real essence of the dire situation, despite the "traitor" shouts of the Piratis's and GR's and Lit's and B25's of the time. In our case, we allowed 37 years to go by and I wish I could solely lay the blame on the other side. I am a realist and I know as well as any, that our side rejected all 14 plans that were put in front of us by people who wanted to help Cyprus. Not only did we reject the plans but we quickly branded the people that proposed them (some were great friends of Cyprus) as Turkish agents and used all sorts of demeaning epithets, such as "person with character weaknesses", "the black", etc, etc in order to defame them in the eyes of GC's.

It is a fallacy to wait for Turkey to disintegrate. But even if it did, this would happen after a great upheaval, wars, deaths and much misery. We are only about 800 000 people, not many of us. I wonder how many of us will survive this upheaval which these cretins crave for, to even contemplate the creating of a Greek Cyprus after this.

There is only one way to go about it. Reconciliation, acceptance of the TC's as equal political partners, in a new Cyprus, without the foreign armies and most important without those elements in both communities who have done their utmost and are still doing their utmost to destroy Cyprus. If we all put such noble notions in our heart, finding a solution will not be difficult. The TC's I know are great people. They are kind, considerate and passionately patriotic with Cyprus at heart. If all Cypriots were like us, there would not be a need for federation. However, with people like B25, Denktash, Lit, Eroglu, GR, the Grey wolves, the blue wolves, a bizonal federation is all we deserve, at best.

Halil, Deniz, Birkibrisli and all my good friends, GC and TC alike, I salute you. Happy New Year to you and your families and may one day we realise our dream.

[Oracle]

So, Venizelos made a mistake which allowed Turkey to grow and now it is in our territory. And you want to repeat that mistake and cede Cyprus to Turkey in its ever-increasing expansionism, further?

What foolishness ...

[Bananiot]

Venizelos made a mistake, says the litle minnow. You fool, he did the best damage control under the circumstances, but still, the joke of the century must be:

Venizelos made a mistake which allowed Turkey to grow ...