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[halil]

In his speech to students union POFEN, Christofias said the quest for a bizonal bicommunal federation was not something he had just invented; it was a principle that was accepted by Archbishop Makarios III in 1977 and reaffirmed by every successive president.

We dare, based on the bitter experience of the past and current developments, to specify what bizonal bicommunal federation means, said Christofias. Those who don't want a federation should stand up as good Greeks and say it: We don't want a federation. And we will see who wins at the end of the day....................

[paliometoxo]

i dont know how that idiot ever made president

[Piratis]

Those who don't want a federation should stand up as good Greeks and say it

Hardly any GC wants a federation. Even Christofias himself said many times that federation is something we are forced to negotiate due to the occupation of the north part of our island by Turkey. So I doubt you are correctly quoting Christofias.

Probably the term he used is "accept" not "want". In that case the answer is again simple: We accept a federation where the territory under TC admin will be no more than 18%, where all Settlers will return to Turkey, where all refugees will have the right to return to their properties, and where the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people are respected. This is the kind of federation that GCs accept (and this is what Makarios accepted as well).

If by "federation" you mean something similar to the annan plan, we already said in the most clear and direct way that such thing is utterly unacceptable.

[Oracle]

If BBF was ever under serious consideration, it should now be relegated to the past along with all those other proposals, plans and experiments.

Since the WHOLE of Cyprus is in the EU now, we should be aiming for a unitary state, with a single sovereignty, which is what I thought Christofias was negotiating for us.

Cyprus is too small for BBF; we have federal structure within the EU which is a place it could work, due to its size. Perhaps Turkey can consider BBF for itself and give the Kurds and Greeks their own federal states!

[halil]

Cypriot Leaders Reaffirm Commitment to Bi-zonal, Bi-communal Federation, Agree to Meet Again in June
Release Date: 23 May 2008
Statement of the two leaders, read by Tayé-Brook Zerihoun, Special Representative of the Secretary-General and Chief of Mission of UNFICYP, following the meeting on 23 May 2008 between Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, and Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias:

JOINT STATEMENT

BY GREEK CYPRIOT LEADER DEMETRIS CHRISTOFIAS

AND TURKISH CYPRIOT LEADER MEHMET ALI TALAT

23 May 2008

The Leaders today had genuine and fruitful discussions, and reviewed the results achieved pursuant to the 21 March agreement.

They reaffirmed their commitment to a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant Security Council resolutions. This partnership will have a Federal Government with a single international personality, as well as a Turkish Cypriot Constituent State and a Greek Cypriot Constituent State, which will be of equal status.

They instructed their Representatives to examine, within 15 days, the results of the technical committees.

The Representatives will consider civilian and military confidence-building measures. They will also pursue the opening of Limnitis/Yeşilırmak and other crossing points.

The Leaders decided to come together again in the second half of June to make a new assessment.




http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_ ... ic&lang=l1


Diplomacy is not a game ........................

[paliometoxo]

If BBF was ever under serious consideration, it should now be relegated to the past along with all those other proposals, plans and experiments.

Since the WHOLE of Cyprus is in the EU now, we should be aiming for a unitary state, with a single sovereignty, which is what I thought Christofias was negotiating for us.

Cyprus is too small for BBF; we have federal structure within the EU which is a place it could work, due to its size. Perhaps Turkey can consider BBF for itself and give the Kurds and Greeks their own federal states!

thats what he says over and over again that he is talking for... we accept no bbf/partition plans..

he wont make it a second term with president if thats what he really talks for bbf imishi mu.. what rubbish

[Afroasiatis]

Christofias never said that he would negotiate for a unitary state - he had always made it clear that he negotiates for a BBF, like every other president we had in the last 20 years. He already accepted some basic conditions, like 50000 settlers and rotational presidency. And there is no real chance that he changes this tactics.

Christofias can only negotiate for a BBF. Only at some point in the future it is possible to have a president who'll negotiate for a different solution, like confederation or partition.

[paliometoxo]

Christofias never said that he would negotiate for a unitary state - he had always made it clear that he negotiates for a BBF, like every other president we had in the last 20 years. He already accepted some basic conditions, like 50000 settlers and rotational presidency. And there is no real chance that he changes this tactics.

Christofias can only negotiate for a BBF. Only at some point in the future it is possible to have a president who'll negotiate for a different solution, like confederation or partition.

partition? your a turk pretending to be greek!

and in the end both sides have to vote... 99.999% of the votes will be NO for bbf in the south

[halil]

Christofias never said that he would negotiate for a unitary state - he had always made it clear that he negotiates for a BBF, like every other president we had in the last 20 years. He already accepted some basic conditions, like 50000 settlers and rotational presidency. And there is no real chance that he changes this tactics.

Christofias can only negotiate for a BBF. Only at some point in the future it is possible to have a president who'll negotiate for a different solution, like confederation or partition.

partition? your a turk pretending to be greek!

and in the end both sides have to vote... 99.999% of the votes will be NO for bbf in the south

Than ....Result ........................

i like below comment someone made it at Cyprus Mail

Year 2011 negotiations failed. Greeks cypriots no longer accepts federation.
Year 2021 North Cyprus population 1.8 million, 98% of the polulation are from Turkey.
Year 2028 North Cyprus population 2.2 million, Government on the north decleared that everyone who has trnc passport is cypriot turkish. Which senario is desirable, United Federal of Cyprus or Over 2 million setteler from Turkey calling themselves new Cypriots.

[paliometoxo]

no it wouldent work like that.... because then greece could send over a few million also if turkey where to do that.. 2 million? where would you even put them? there is not even enough space for 1 million in the north