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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:35 pm

EPSILON wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:i dont know how that idiot ever made president


If he is so confident that G/cs agree why he just not organize a referendum?


i guess they will when they agree to all the points if thats true BUT christofias has said he is fighting for a unitary state and done believe any other lies...


bbf = hahahahaha joke never in a million years
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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:34 pm

BBF does mean a Unitary State, but not one government, and not just one governing body...

(count them, at least three)
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:50 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:BBF does mean a Unitary State, but not one government, and not just one governing body...

(count them, at least three)


This is what Christofias repeats, RW:

" ... the united federal state would be one, with one single sovereignty, a single citizenship and a single international personality"

He doesn't mean one state, but a different sovereignty, another citizenship and still then another (third/fourth) different international personality!

ONE country!
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:55 pm

yes like Oracle said :)!!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:03 am

Now do you understand what they are negotiating Palio a BBFederation with 2 equal states TC and GC?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:12 am

Oracle wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:BBF does mean a Unitary State, but not one government, and not just one governing body...

(count them, at least three)


This is what Christofias repeats, RW:

" ... the united federal state would be one, with one single sovereignty, a single citizenship and a single international personality"

He doesn't mean one state, but a different sovereignty, another citizenship and still then another (third/fourth) different international personality!

ONE country!


there must exist two levels of governance, (the "Bi" in zonal and community) for a BBF to have a meaning which is repeatable, by other People, set in Principals that when applied generally provide the same results. indeed Christofias fights for a Unitary State, he is Cypriot, and the President of its Republic (in that sense it is easy, we are an island afterall). but the Person in our identity has no realisation without National Assemblies. as majorities we wish to sustain distinctions that are our Communal Heritance. what is wrong therefore with a Greek Constituency? ...and in this context, a State united, the People as this island's dwellers Sovereign, to defend and represent themselves, each as Individuals for Universal Principals they uphold, and as Persons demonstrate.

Here we have the Count:

a Greek Constituency
a Turkish Constituency
(maybe other Constituencies)
a State

three, or more; focus on that as a regle d'appui,
then think, two levels of governance.

honest thinking therefore considers that "this" will not stay the same
those that wish to resist change, divide
thus, my view, that "Greeks" and "Turks" have needs, which as a Cypriot,
i choose to refine.
but, i choose for a Cyprus that can sustain more than just "Greeks" and "Turks"


understand that the future brings great changes to this island's demographics, particularlly
with the threat of desertification.


The partnership will comprise a Federal Government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot Constituent State and a Greek Cypriot Constituent State, which will be of equal status.


...this is what is agreed to



...so Christofias, i say good luck my Capitain, and weather this sewer stink that brews within the bildges of your ship, you prepare, and, as always it seems, godspeed woth the storms out to sea.

Finally, Greeks will have their say, with a Turkish Constituent State, a Greek Constituent State, (and others), that are equal, an ability to sustain this distinction as Persons, unified and under one State, they, "Greeks" as opposed to Greeks, will no longer feel they are indiscriminate in their Goodwill, as the State, they will have to build reciprocally on the cooperation that existed before, between Societies and within individual communities, ...before being subjected to interlocutors (creating these identities), who tore them apart. a Cypriot, will exist, (lol) perhaps with a Greek Constituency, mr X will be free, to defend this Right.

...and so long as we look at this Problem as "Greek" and "Turkish", we cannot end this subjugation, nor can we demonstrate a way of living which supports a betterment as Cypriots which we give in return, toward a greater Family of Man.

...who will believe me if i said that i've read Das Kapital three times in my life, that part was easy. who cares if my heart bleeds because social-exchange is so dismal as a science; and yet, Hope in providence, flutters from buterfly wings make storms.

again, please read my manifesto thingy, and revisit your posts on my manifesto; finish it: for Freedom. you are my dearest, dearest, the most noble in a world of witches, brews of passion, savoury or sweet, i still learn...

forgive my long reply ms. O. , my OP, i just want to be helpful with thoughts, like you for one love and one island.


...so what do you think, a Greek Constituency, is it a good time for it now?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:52 am

Viewpoint wrote:Now do you understand what they are negotiating Palio a BBFederation with 2 equal states TC and GC?


viewpoint, take heed, because soon you'll be calling Halil another Kikapou; you better than any other, old crow, know the truth,

read carefully, 2 (or more) equal states within a level of governance, two levels of governance, hence, at least three governing bodies: One State, and National Assemblies.
...if you truly believe in Bicommunality, as a man first, and as a Person Turkish in origin, join me in saying it straight, do not continue to dismiss our obligation to make this advance in Human thinking.

do not play "Turkish" because there are "Greeks" who play with you...

...choose to be the Person you want to be by all means, but stand up as an Individual i beg you too.
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Postby boulio » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:23 am

Now do you understand what they are negotiating Palio a BBFederation with 2 equal states TC and GC?


yOU KEEP HARPING ON THIS AND IT has been pointed out to both you and Halil that political equality does not mean two equal states.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:41 am

boulio wrote:
Now do you understand what they are negotiating Palio a BBFederation with 2 equal states TC and GC?


yOU KEEP HARPING ON THIS AND IT has been pointed out to both you and Halil that political equality does not mean two equal states.


...although halil understands and he now makes this clear, hence my message to vp; it does not mean two equal states without a Federal State as well: three (or more) governing bodies, not one, not two.
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